But do you mean like requiring a moderator to approve new users? Because that just creates even more work for moderators for little gain. In the non-virtual world, vetting is important because physical spaces and organizing just has higher stakes than silly online discussions, but online anything is really about the number of active users and good posts drowning out the bad. Vetting an online forum means it becomes as slow as real-world recruiting. Or maybe I'm making thus stuff up.
You don't need to manually approve, that would be bad.
Just add like a cooldown of a few hours or days when you make a new account, after that you can comment and post. Seems like an easy fix since most people lurk anyway, especially when they first join.
I dunno, that could turn away some normal people who want to comment, while still letting chuds who want to wreck sit on an account for a few days before wrecking. It's difficult to be precise with this no matter what I guess. Purges as well always get a few good people, same as it always was :deeper-sadness:
Again the idea is that for most people they won't even notice or will have to wait a bit once, while chuds who want to wreck will have to do it everytime they get banned and that adds up very quickly, it would filter the chuds, raids and other shit like that enormously.
It's about pros and cons to me, and honestly most people who join a community they like and want to post in, if they gotta make an account first, and then if they just have to wait a few hours, I don't see it as an issue.
Finding this place, liking it and making an account is a bigger barrier than just waiting a bit on top of it imo.
Same as now sure, but that shit is easy to notice for mods if it's an actual problem.
Again we can and will still have to report and ban people on a regular basis, but most assholes get bored quickly and a small barrier will reduce the amount of work to do by a lot.
If you have weirdly dedicated people, then that's more anti-raid tactics, and for that I can imagine a few specific ways to notice weird behaviour on a technical level.
Sure, but someone needs to evaluate the answers. Could be something like 3 short answer questions randomly selected from some larger set. "Vetting" could be as simple as someone taking 10 seconds to check someone's responses and approve/disapprove.
Multiple choice would be easier to automate, but more prone to abuse when wreckers memorize the right answers.
But do you mean like requiring a moderator to approve new users? Because that just creates even more work for moderators for little gain. In the non-virtual world, vetting is important because physical spaces and organizing just has higher stakes than silly online discussions, but online anything is really about the number of active users and good posts drowning out the bad. Vetting an online forum means it becomes as slow as real-world recruiting. Or maybe I'm making thus stuff up.
You don't need to manually approve, that would be bad. Just add like a cooldown of a few hours or days when you make a new account, after that you can comment and post. Seems like an easy fix since most people lurk anyway, especially when they first join.
I dunno, that could turn away some normal people who want to comment, while still letting chuds who want to wreck sit on an account for a few days before wrecking. It's difficult to be precise with this no matter what I guess. Purges as well always get a few good people, same as it always was :deeper-sadness:
Again the idea is that for most people they won't even notice or will have to wait a bit once, while chuds who want to wreck will have to do it everytime they get banned and that adds up very quickly, it would filter the chuds, raids and other shit like that enormously. It's about pros and cons to me, and honestly most people who join a community they like and want to post in, if they gotta make an account first, and then if they just have to wait a few hours, I don't see it as an issue. Finding this place, liking it and making an account is a bigger barrier than just waiting a bit on top of it imo.
Couldn't someone just make a bunch of accounts all at once though?
Same as now sure, but that shit is easy to notice for mods if it's an actual problem. Again we can and will still have to report and ban people on a regular basis, but most assholes get bored quickly and a small barrier will reduce the amount of work to do by a lot. If you have weirdly dedicated people, then that's more anti-raid tactics, and for that I can imagine a few specific ways to notice weird behaviour on a technical level.
Maybe it's a job that could be given to a set of trusted users? Sort of sub-moderators but only for vetting new users.
That would make things slow as hell. Make new users go through some sort of annoying quiz on trans rights or something.
Sure, but someone needs to evaluate the answers. Could be something like 3 short answer questions randomly selected from some larger set. "Vetting" could be as simple as someone taking 10 seconds to check someone's responses and approve/disapprove.
Multiple choice would be easier to automate, but more prone to abuse when wreckers memorize the right answers.
Nah I was saying multiple choice.
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