Most of my perspective on this issue comes from how I don't spend more than 2 hours a day on this site, definitely not the 8+ that it would seem to require to stay up on the nuances of everything. As someone who is not extremely online, there's a lot I don't see. I do notice with some shock when longtime posters suddenly start dropping like flies in ban waves, but I also recognize that there are people who silently leave and this is at least equally bad.
I made a thread about downbulls as the counterpart to upbears, just not a linear opposite. Someone's very clearly here to make a mess? Ban them instantly. Someone's posted for a while but done some hurtful things? Warn them, give them a bull on their user page that links to their problematic post(s), and if they accumulate too many then ban them and any user will easily be able to see why, without sifting through hundreds of actions per day of mod logs.
Most of my perspective on this issue comes from how I don't spend more than 2 hours a day on this site, definitely not the 8+ that it would seem to require to stay up on the nuances of everything. As someone who is not extremely online, there's a lot I don't see. I do notice with some shock when longtime posters suddenly start dropping like flies in ban waves, but I also recognize that there are people who silently leave and this is at least equally bad.
I made a thread about downbulls as the counterpart to upbears, just not a linear opposite. Someone's very clearly here to make a mess? Ban them instantly. Someone's posted for a while but done some hurtful things? Warn them, give them a bull on their user page that links to their problematic post(s), and if they accumulate too many then ban them and any user will easily be able to see why, without sifting through hundreds of actions per day of mod logs.