I wish I had a collection of links and whatnot to really direct people to the details of the issues, but ultimately I too feel pretty out of the loop and I am wondering how many on here have kept track of the history of these nascent left movements/orgs.

RIBPP just recently split off from NABPP over disagreements about broad strategy and personal disagreements with NABPP. This was done in part under the direction of Kevin Johnson, former NABPP member who disagreed with the chairman and another influential member, Tom Watts. Their 'policy-based' splits alleged by the RIBPP people was that the NABPP shuttered the United Panther Movement because it was existing beyond NABPP control.

However, at the same time, I see posts on the BHO website which alleges that Kevin Johnson doesn't even exist and is merely a pseudonym for Tom Watts. And BHO alleges that Tom Watts might have been a white supremacist controlling the NABPP with a puppet chairman? Though to be fair, I know little to nothing about Black Hammer beyond the fact it is a website saying it is an organization.

I will say as an indigenous person, that Tom alleges indigenous ancestry in a way that hits nearly all the red flags of someone pretending to be native, so I am distrustful of this alleged White Panther who is in the NABPP.

I can provide a bit more detail to anyone curious but largely I am just wondering... what the fuck is going on, which orgs are ops, is anyone on the internet even real and trying to build popular fronts against capitalism or to paraphrase Zhuangzi am I just a butterfly living in my own convoluted dreams of decolonial socialist actions in the imperial core?

:curious-marx:

If anyone can provide some details about these dynamics I would be greatly appreciative.

  • Chutt_Buggins [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Thanks for all this!

    Yeah, I remember my initial thoughts of BHO articles I came across were that they were nothing serious and more harmful than anything else, but in a few things discussing Watts/Sharod Zulu they linked to Watts own words and it was a real mess when you consider the totality. Kinda manipulative and disconnected defences. I also remember that thing blowing up in May but didnt think much of it, until the RIBPP split.

    I have read stuff by Rashid to the point that I bought hardcopies of some books of his, so I wasn't sure exactly what was going with them alleging he doesn't exist, especially if the RIBPP/NABPP split occurred over 'Rashid's faction' arguing with 'Sharod/Tom's faction' that stayed in the NABPP.

    Aside from the BHO allegations, do you have any insight into the RIBPP allegations about the NABPP's inability to work with others in a UPM or that Sharod mistreats women? That was the main stuff I was looking into, and then finding all the BHO stuff was just a crazy cherry on top of my existing confusion.

    The Panthers have always been a big factor to me, so I am really eager to see any currently existing panther movement gain steam at this time, and from what I had read Rashid was doing a good job at it.

    I am open to learning more about all of this, for sure. Especially as I don't know much about those involved in the RIBPP aside from Rashid.