a completely unsourced rant, from the same people that peddled the 'Iraq has WMD's' bullshit.

Some names have been changed.

Was Adrien Zenz one of them?

  • Punk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I've never said I don't think there's anyway of knowing what's going on. I think it's hard to know the full extent. Even without getting into the camps, China's own De-extremification Regulations outline clear racial profiling which is, yes, racist and fucked up.

    • T_Doug [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Agreed. It's clear that western media lies a great deal about Xinjiang; and the reeducation centers are obviously not analogous to the Holocaust as is so frequently suggested. But the official motivations and policies for them resemble those of North American Indigenous Residential schools far too much for me to feel comfortable defending. And past readings through article on The Gray Zone, or that big Google Doc posted here months backhas done nothing to dissuade me from that view.

      This is particularly true because both China's line, and many of it's defenders, have adopted a very unmaterialist view of why tensions exist in Xinjiang in the first place. As though "radical Islamic Terrorism" just appeared there one day; and is not the result of decades of rising discontent among Uighur's in the face of deprivation and state policy percieved as actively hostile. As well as clearly inflammatory Chinese actions like setting up training camps for Uighur mujahideen in Xinjiang during the Soviet Afghan war .

      Though admittedly; certain policies now pursued by the Xinjiang government do recognize that this is a conflict rooted in past and present deprivations of an ethnic group; and providing better access to decent jobs better living standards, and more equal representation in government will do more to end this tragic conflict than any civics lesson possibly could.

      • RedFoundry [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        This is an absurd take. No one says it comes from nowhere, which is why China is doing everything it can to integrate Uighurs into greater Chinese society.

        There have been no terrorist attacks in Xinjiang since 2017.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Damn, China invaded Iraq and murdered 2 million Iraqis as well? That country just can't catch break.