...we're gonna have to re-evaluate old concepts of free speech and democracy.

Everyone's on anti depressants/sleepers/speed, the chuds are blasting testosterone out their ears until they stroke, weed is everywhere and as potent as heroin.

Add the perfect dopamine delivery system, a political internet economy modeled on the addictive technology of vegas slot machines.

It's gonna have an effect on the national psyche.

Is it a partial explanation for Q?

Shout out to the divorced, biker, small business tyrant, dad...caught with test injectables and thc edibles, and guns, after the Capitol. Just the only man for the moment.

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edit: gotta step away for now. will come back to this. Feels like this post was misunderstood, or I just didn't make enough sense. Hope it won't make things awkward when i slide into selected PMs asking for a plug 😀

  • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    There are more Merediths than people realize. Every second ad on Fox is for test boosters. Jones flogs his own ffs.

    As per the OP it’s gonna have an effect on the national psyche and may be a partial explanation for the Qanon issue.

    Based was a joke. That's why I wrote lol.

    The first law against Holocaust denial was passed in 1960.

    • volkvulture [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Testosterone & Meredith are not the reason Q gained popularity

      It's not an explanation really at all, because plenty of apolitical & liberals also take these supplements

      QAnon is silly but it's not blatant Holocaust denial

      • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Testosterone & Meredith are not the reason Q gained popularity

        Again, I said they are part of a piece, not the sole reasons, as per many posts.

        Qanon is a pipeline, it's part of a cohort of beliefs that commonly include white supremacy and holocaust denial.

        • volkvulture [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Drugs & overprescription of testosterone have little if anything to do with the nature & the spread of QAnon

          Bone-deep irrational religious fervor & the deterioration of social bonds & overall outlook in America are the key points imo

          QAnon would lead someone to other harebrained right-wing conspiracy theories, but as such doesn't really touch on Holocaust denial... though I agree there are tacit "white nationalist" underpinnings

          • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Drugs & overprescription of testosterone have little if anything to do with the nature & the spread of QAnon

            from another post: Say one in a thousand people have an adverse behavioural reaction to a psychoactive medication. If that medication is prescribed on an indusrial scale, even overprescribed, you then have a lot of those people in society that may be more suggestible, more volatile, more irrational. Then consider poly drug scenarios, for psychoactive drugs taken daily, and the effect that might have on a wider, macro, societal level. There are examples, but I don’t want to trigger anyone. I mean, caffeine has been proven to make people more suggestible.

            I’m suggesting that this may be one factor contributing to the rapid rise of Qanon.

            Bone-deep irrational religious fervor & the deterioration of social bonds & overall outlook in America are the key points imo

            Agree that they are major factors, but in light of widespread disbelief and confusion at the rise of Qanaon, I'm suggesting that the pharmacologisization (©️ 2021) of society is another major, perhaps unnoticed, factor.

            Have had Qanon people extremely close to me. Holocaust denial comes up in their suggestions overtly and covertly. The message is absolutely connected imo.

            • volkvulture [none/use name]
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              The drugs are an insignificant factor in this, if they're even a factor at all. These people whether they're overmedicated or not are more likely to believe QAnon for other reasons, because plenty on the left & those who are apolitical are also taking illegal & far too many legal drugs. Misuse of drugs is not a partisan phenomenon. QAnon's spread has to do with confused politics/insular worldview & regionalism & urban/suburban/rural class divides far more than it does with "Drugs Bad" specifically. Please stop trying to blame drugs for the fault of right-wing individuals & the cynical propagandists purposely misleading them lol.

              I would even say that drugs have nothing to do with the individual QAnon believer's willingness and devotion to these lies. It's much more to do with a lack of proper historical & political education coupled with mass media and Internet misinformation centering around anonymous online message boards and their supposed "alt-tech" novelty.

              There is no evidence that pharmacology created QAnon, it's just political excuses made by people who are both cowed by conservative obstinacy as well as by American civil religion and evangelical self-delusion

              Individual QAnon believers may hold these beliefs as well, but the QAnon mythos itself has little if anything to do with Holocaust denial. Although I will say its anti-elitism & "blood libel" rhetoric does border on anti-Semitic tropes.

              • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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                4 years ago

                Please stop trying to blame drugs for the fault of right-wing individuals & the cynical propagandists purposely misleading them lol.

                There is no evidence that pharmacology created QAnon

                Again x100, I'm saying it's likely an under-considered factor, not the sole reason.

                the QAnon mythos itself has little if anything to do with Holocaust denial.

                Absolutely. Have been following it from the start. Have direct experience of people radicalized by it. 5 years ago they would have been aghast at holocaust denial. Now they are watching videos about it and "just asking questions." Asking me about bitchute. You know the rest.

                • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  Drugs are not a contributing factor for why QAnon believers are compelled to believe & act on these things. I do not think Ashli Babbitt was on testosterone or illegal drugs when she stormed the capitol and was shot, though if you can find information proving otherwise I would be glad to walk that back.

                  QAnon wasn't around 5 years ago, it wasn't formulated until 2017.

                  Saying that your personal anecdotal experience with people close to you is applicable to the entire phenomenon or to objective reality is just subjective bias & group attribution error on your part.

                  • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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                    Feels like quite a disingenous point. Of course Babbit wasn't on test, and likely not on illegal drugs.

                    Drugs are not a contributing factor for why QAnon believers are compelled to believe & act on these things.

                    It is undeniable that psychoactive drugs, used daily in poly drug scenarios, will have adverse behavioural effects on a small minority of people. A small minority of 70 million Trump voters is a lot of people. This modern phenomenon is now extremely common. This could be one factor in the rapid rise of Qanon.

                    QAnon wasn’t around 5 years ago, it wasn’t formulated until 2017.

                    I'm well aware. The the online radicalization began before Q imo.

                    Saying that your personal anecdotal experience with people close to you is applicable to the entire phenomenon or to objective reality is just subjective bias & group attribution error on your part.

                    Yet you bring up Babbit.