I've worked in offices for a long time and didn't find it relatable at all. Maybe it's because I work in a major city and not a small town. The office life I know is a lot less heartwarming. Camaraderie exists but there's a lot less involvement of personal lives. I have great friends I met at work but it's much more atomized. There have been plenty of people I share an office with that I don't even know.
It's still a funny show but it's one that I can't really watch anymore because it's been beaten to death by popular culture.
somewhere along the line, the show stopped presenting Michael as delusional and intrusive for seeing the office like a family, and started agreeing with him
I think once a show has a run like that it becomes harder to not treat the entire thing as precious. Especially with a sitcom rather than a drama. People don't want characters they've developed parasocial relationships with to be treated cynically.
Personally I kind of doubt it. I think it might have somewhat become that over time, but I'm sure the initial pitch was just "hey people work in offices everywhere, let's make a sitcom about one where the boss is a dipshit." Of course since it was originally created by Ricky Gervais I wouldn't be shocked if shitty politics were a motivation. I guess I'm saying I think the goal was to appeal to people more than to influence them.
Yeah I hate that he a libertarian too, I feel like he just latched on to it and never explored economic and political theory after that. Lots of lefties went from libertarian to socialist after actually understanding how it's a failed ideology
Yeah I have a few friends that have described themselves as libertarian until I pointed out a couple things about it. I think a lot of people are sold on the whole "I should be able to do whatever I want with my property" thing. They have some romantic idea in their heads where they live a peaceful life off the grid, grow their own food, and shit. They don't realize how stupid the economic and societal implications are.
I've worked in offices for a long time and didn't find it relatable at all. Maybe it's because I work in a major city and not a small town. The office life I know is a lot less heartwarming. Camaraderie exists but there's a lot less involvement of personal lives. I have great friends I met at work but it's much more atomized. There have been plenty of people I share an office with that I don't even know.
It's still a funny show but it's one that I can't really watch anymore because it's been beaten to death by popular culture.
somewhere along the line, the show stopped presenting Michael as delusional and intrusive for seeing the office like a family, and started agreeing with him
I think once a show has a run like that it becomes harder to not treat the entire thing as precious. Especially with a sitcom rather than a drama. People don't want characters they've developed parasocial relationships with to be treated cynically.
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Personally I kind of doubt it. I think it might have somewhat become that over time, but I'm sure the initial pitch was just "hey people work in offices everywhere, let's make a sitcom about one where the boss is a dipshit." Of course since it was originally created by Ricky Gervais I wouldn't be shocked if shitty politics were a motivation. I guess I'm saying I think the goal was to appeal to people more than to influence them.
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Yeah, that's the one big thing the UK show has over the US one.
Brent stays absolutely loathsome and pathetic throughout the whole show because that's what he is. A loser who failed upwards into management.
Probably a benefit of having like 12 episode total or whatever.
Now Office Space on the other hand is extremely relatable
And if you've ever worked at a tech startup, Silicon Valley. Strange to find out Mike Judge is a libertarian.
Yeah I hate that he a libertarian too, I feel like he just latched on to it and never explored economic and political theory after that. Lots of lefties went from libertarian to socialist after actually understanding how it's a failed ideology
Yeah I have a few friends that have described themselves as libertarian until I pointed out a couple things about it. I think a lot of people are sold on the whole "I should be able to do whatever I want with my property" thing. They have some romantic idea in their heads where they live a peaceful life off the grid, grow their own food, and shit. They don't realize how stupid the economic and societal implications are.