I guess instead of self-reflecting about the implications of a broader, more diverse reactionary American ideology it's better just to create a new boogyman entirely where we can just assign some amount of "multicultural whiteness" to any non-white people whose views fall outside of the liberal orthodoxy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/15/understand-trumps-support-we-must-think-terms-multiracial-whiteness/

  • longhorn617 [any]
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    3 years ago

    When you can, under no circumstances, talk about class.

    • AKnightAlone [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Someone slip a piece of paper to WaPo or The NYT, wherever this is from, that the writer can wink if they're under duress.

    • pepe_silvia96 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      it's hard to talk about the chud insurgency in terms of class tho. it was was a mixed bag of poor, middle class and really well off. idk what the class analysis is.

        • pepe_silvia96 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          read it and found it interesting.

          yea, there was a sham revolutionary spirit in the 2016 election(economic nationalism, america first, maga). and then there was a further degredation of that spirit when it was linked up with the interests of the capitalists. in the end, fascism is buffoonery. one has to educate themselves to find contradictions within liberal democracies, but with fascism those contradictions are exaggerated to such an extent that it becomes comedy.

          it's the inner drive of the chud that I find interesting tho. as bad as covid has been, what we're living through isn't comparable to the economic struggles in germany after Versailles. and if anything, this crisis is a perfect display of the shortcomings of capitalism. yet he chuds dont see it as such. that's why I think theres something more here(no, it's not multi-racial whiteness, although racism plays a huge role).

          nihilism induced by neo-liberalism, the confusion created by the new class of internet pundits, the acceleration of the news cycle. the reality that america has been driven by a class conscious capitalist elite from its inception and has built an ideology and vast set of institutions to defend itself from the threats of the proletarians.

          idk, but I'm gonna try to read more Zizek. he might offer some insight.

      • QuipeConTe [she/her,he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Petite boug and lumpenprole united around a combo of anti-communist, pro-racist and pro-authoritarian figureheads.

        • pepe_silvia96 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          yea but I'm of the opinion theres a better analysis(not multi-racial whiteness, that sounds dumb)

          reporters on the ground said the q-anon precense was huge. that's an ideology that goes beyond the class struggle. also the fact that they're anti-communist but there aren't any communists in government to oppose.

          these people are dumb and have been weaponized by powerful interests. for purposes of class oppression, yes, but shit feels pathological now.

          its 2021 and workers root for their own exploitation, none of this shit was neccesary.

          I might be of the opinion that this is the end result of neo-liberal induced nihilism. there is no society, only individuals and all that have inverted words and meaning.

      • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        it’s hard to talk about the chud insurgency in terms of class tho. it was was a mixed bag of poor, middle class and really well off. idk what the class analysis is.

        I heard Virgil Texas say that on the bad faith pod, but I haven't seen any serious studies in to the class nature of that protest. We have to be carefull and not spread a narrative that isn't certainly true.