Who’s laughing now huh

  • radicalhomo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    also the fact that we have a US flag in every classroom in the country and morally obligate children to do a "pledge of allegiance" on the daily is definitely not fucked up cultish indoctrination

      • ami [they/them,he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Flashbacks to me in middle school getting detention, paddled, and death threats for not standing for the pledge in the mornings.

      • radicalhomo [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        We had biweekly advisories in highschool, and one time (the day after veteran's day I think) we had to watch a video (created by our JROTC?) where they talked about how America was the greatest country on earth with the most freedom and how great our troops are. And they literally compared not standing for the pledge to spitting on a dead veteran's grave. We did a second pledge of allegiance that day, which the entire class all did.

        we had similar nationalist advisories, one of which the teacher literally did the "more female war criminals!" meme by reading an article about "the most badass women of the US army"

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      That pledge of allegiance thing is really fucked. I don't think any liberal western country has anything similar.

      The closest thing I can remember from my country is the one time we sang the national anthem in music class and the teacher told us to stand up. But that was just one single time out of then years of school. Nothing coming close to the daily indoctrination of the US.

      How do teachers feel about the pledge of allegiance? I can imagine a lot of them cringing at the concept and thinking it is a huge waste of time and a source for unnecessary conflict.

      • radicalhomo [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        How do teachers feel about the pledge of allegiance?

        idk but some of them gave me a dirty look when I didn't stand.

    • Sealand_macronation [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      morally obligate children to do a “pledge of allegiance” on the daily

      The Bellamy salute is a palm-out salute described by Francis Bellamy, the author of the American Pledge of Allegiance, as the gesture which was to accompany the pledge. During the period when it was used with the Pledge of Allegiance, it was sometimes known as the "flag salute". Both the Pledge and its salute originated in 1892.Later, during the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazi Germans adopted a salute which was very similar, and which was derived from the Roman salute, a gesture that was popularly (albeit erroneously) believed to have been used in ancient Rome. This resulted in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      A direct consequence of the Cold War and subsequent American White Terror under McCarthy, curiously enough.

      When faced with a strong, independent soviet state who didn't need no capitalism, Americans retreated into jingoism and flag worship.