1) I guarantee this is a chud who only watches gay porn and yet has convinced himself he's not gay for whatever dumb reason and so he lives a life of mental gymnastics and misery instead. And no I don't think all homophobes are secretly gay. I just suspect this guy based on the weird mental gymnastics he does

2) "to make sure I'm transparent, I'm straight" / "these labels don't need to exist" lol

https://reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/l09yb6/_/gjsnzxz/?context=1

I definitely should have provided more context for this post and explained their further behaviour more. In a comment before this he uses his logic here to argue against "special treatment" for LGBT+ people for example, by which he means LGBT charities, pride, gay spaces, etc. I should have included more of that as the lack of context for his remarks makes it look like Im attacking the guy for having a fairly nuanced take on sexuality - which wasn't my intention

  • KurdKobein [any]
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    4 years ago

    I mean, he's right, mostly. You know why they use the "men who have sex with men" label and what not.

    • AluminiumXmasTrees [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Oh I'm not suggesting he's not right or at least circling the right sort of area. It's more how he's arrived at that conclusion and why

  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Gay is an adjective. Two men having sex is gay sex. But those men aren't necessarily gay men. They could be experimenting and about to find out they don't care for it, or they could be "gay for pay" doing porn as he mentioned.

      • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Isn’t that basically just being closeted?

        Like Pete Buttigieg until it was politically advantageous to be out.

          • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            It’s not politically advantageous to be out in general, but it is when you’re a white guy trying to be Obama.

              • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                A Christian cis straight white man can’t be an Obama clone because there’s nothing historic about him. Part of Obama’s election was about proving that a black man could be president.

                I think that if Pete wasn’t gay, he’d get criticized more by the Yas Kween crowd and he would have faded from the primary like Eric Swalwell.

                I don’t think that being gay is an advantage in general and I don’t think that it was even specifically an advantage to Buttigieg, but that it was very calculated and triangulated when and why he came out.

                So maybe by politically advantageous I meant not politically disastrous.

    • radicalhomo [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I guess but if they do it more than once not for pay they're definitely either gay or bi

    • AluminiumXmasTrees [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I feel like the fact he's advocating for an abolition of sexual binaries in favour of a more complex understanding of sexuality- which is good and something I 100% agree on - but then goes out of his way to insist he's straight in this and multiple comments following is completely bizarre

      Idk I thought it was either poorly performative suggesting they have a nuanced approach to sexuality and then immediately reinforcing said binary or some bizarre mental gymnastics to justify their own feelings whilst still claiming "no homo"

      I guess I should have made myself clearer

        • AluminiumXmasTrees [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          In another comment he gets mad someone suggests that "even you could be a little gay, it's a sliding scale" and reiterates his straight credentials. Idk I missed too much of the context with this and ended up looking like I'm attacking a guy for having a pretty good take on sexuality. Lesson learned.

  • fuckhaha [any,none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    They probably specified that they were straight because they knew the regular shitheaded reaction to this very correct opinion is "lmao you're just gay man, just admit your gay lol" which was exactly what you then said

    • AluminiumXmasTrees [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      As I said elsewhere he's not wrong, he's very nearly exactly there - but then he throws that away to insist he's straight out of nowhere both here and across multiple comments.

    • radicalhomo [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      if you go far back enough there were no terms for sexuality in the first place

  • radicalhomo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    reminds me of comments under gay pornhub videos from clearly closested bi/gay guys being like "i'm not gay but this was hot". i've seen at least a dozen of comments like that. also how a lot of gay porn videos have "straight guy" in the title

    • AntipastoAktion [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Porn titles are the worst in general. Some of the most exploitative and just awful shit around if you're looking for anything outside of "cis white" as your subjects and even then it can be degrading. But holy shit is everything outside of basic cis white porn just the most degrading possible titles.

      • alexandra_kollontai [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        [be trans] ah yes let me go onto the pornography website to watch people who are like me

        oh nevermind this isn't porn this is just a 100% slur speedrun

  • CrookedSerpent [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Who you have and have not had sex with do not determine your sexuality. Reddit man good, actually...

  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I hate the idea that straight is some sort of prestige. It's a clean record of not having queer encounters. You can't just not currently be looking for gay encounters and be straight; it's not just a communication of desire.

  • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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    4 years ago

    Wait is this literally that “I’m not gay I have relationships with women. And sex with men” meme but seriously?