I see the term a lot, but I don't fully understand its context. Impossible to google due to libs coopting the language in unintelligible articles.

Thank you for the help.

  • BillyMays [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    10-12 minutes. That’s longer than Matt has ever spent on the struggles of marginalized people outside the scope of class.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      untrue on its face even for people who just listened to the pod during the last year, much less the vlogs

      • BillyMays [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        No I’m not talking about the substantial amount of time Amber spends shitting on Jewish people.

            • emizeko [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              why, you've done nothing to indicate you're coming to this in good faith whatsoever

              "link me a fiteen minute clip to prove it's worth it to listen to a ten minute clip". come on, man

              • BillyMays [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Okay then don’t. Idgaf.

                You’re saying they talk about intersectionality. I’m saying they don’t, so I’m asking when either the vlog or podcast talks about it.

                • emizeko [they/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  so where are we now? CTH the podcast and the vlogs are together on trial to see if they have mentioned this enough in a way that makes it worthwhile for you to listen to the original ten minute clip before shitting on Matt as "trash" for an argument you haven't even bothered to hear?

                  • BillyMays [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    I did listen to it. I didn’t listen to the whole episode bc it started off trash and I don’t waste my time listening people trying to claw their way out of trash arguments.

                    • emizeko [they/them]
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                      4 years ago

                      so we're back to you just hearing the first thirty seconds. i'm out

                          • BillyMays [he/him]
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                            4 years ago

                            Just remember you’re on the side of “class reductionism is a term of abuse.”

                              • BillyMays [he/him]
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                                4 years ago

                                “Started with the Hillary people.” Totally denying decades of liberation efforts by socialists in the U.S.

                                Ramblings about the PMC that he disagrees with.

                                “Twitter is about validation. At least that’s why i went on twitter.” Making this seem like it is only an online issue. While protesting this is a very real issue on the streets for marginalized people who feel constantly second guessed and not trusted by the cis white people beside them.

                                “You can’t argue yourself out of these positions.” Yeah because your take is bad.

                                “2 arguments. People disagree on a course of action. People upset that the route may not be correct, but the destination is the same. And the only argument online. The argument to be had. People arguing about what the hypothetical best way to get somewhere. Not actually going anywhere.” Another shit argument. Me and class reductionists are not trying to get to the same place and my arguments aren’t just “online” these happen in real life about how we get people to join the fight against capitalism and how we liberate all people instead of just liberating poor cis white men.

                                “Online demands bad faith” oh like his whole argument that started out with denying class reductionism as a real issue.

                                “These people don’t do politics in there real life. What they see online demands their emotional landscape.” Projection

                                Paraphrasing: arguing over the quickest way to get at the hospital vs shooting the shit about comic book characters. I’m guessing in this analogy which is also shit he’s arguing the capitalism vs communism is the quickest way to the hospital and class reductionism is comic book characters. Holy fuck that’s terrible.

                                There’s your 12 extra shitty fucking minutes. What a waste of my fucking time.