Well, okay...I don't stan them.
But I have mixed feelings about them.

As a kid I was really into Star Wars and looked up to the Jedi, so I think it's a hold over from that.
The Jedi are flawed, foolish, short-sighted and kind of cowardly (among other things) and The Republic is a stagnant beasts with an inefficient anachronistic and byzantine system where the worst kind of poverty has existed for millennia.
...But I still kind of like them, despite their tragic faults.

Well...Idk if I like The Republic as depicted in Star Wars, in some ways I hate it.
But the idea of a galactic society where hundreds if not thousands of peoples and cultures are brought together to coexist is one I really like, and I can understand in the early days why the Jedi would of supported the creation of such an organization.
Of course it is just that, an idea , and the lore is filled with the many ways The Republic as a bourgeoise order failed these ideals.

Ultimately I think the Jedi erred in so closely associating themselves with and mooring themselves to a state.
Their understanding of the force and themselves is also incomplete or lacking, I think.
But at the end of the day I still like the little space wizard monks.
I respect their aim in controlling their emotions (even if it often materializes in suppression instead) and in being diplomats and peacekeepers for the galaxy (even if it often materializes in propping up an unjust status quo).

But now I am starting to ramble about children's media, which is an unforgivable crime, so I'll stop.

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  • Parzivus [any]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah, but the Empire needed the Force to become the Empire

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Honest question; At what point did Palpatine use the force to bring about the Empire? As far as I remember he only used the force to hide his own force power from the Jedi. Everything else was done by straightforward political manipulation, playing on people's fears and greed.

      • Parzivus [any]
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        3 years ago

        Apparently in the old canon, he got angry at his dad and "accidentally" killed his entire close family, which got him scouted by the previous sith and all the connections that come with that. It also puts him in the comfortable position of being more or less the strongest person in the universe, the dude was almost invincible and being immune to assassination attempts and whatnot as space Hitler is a big bonus.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Okay but my point is that you don't need space magic to do any of those things. Hitler was famously immune to assassination, too.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          But that's all stuff that countered the actions of other space wizards. 1 + -1 = 0. If you take the space wizardry out of the equation he did it all by good old fashioned murder and skullduggery, just like Hitler on whom he was largely modelled.