• supermangoman [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      It's one thing to dislike the military, it's another to be a class traitor and useful idiot to the capitalist class by shunning others in the proletariat.

      You become a defacto class traitor. And that is certainly worth dunking on.

        • supermangoman [he/him, they/them]
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          4 years ago

          A person joining the military in an attempt to better their life or do what they think is right is no worse than someone joining a corporation to better their lot.

          Blaming the soldiers is cowardly and shortsighted. The blame rests on leadership, and more importantly, the system.

          All you end up doing is destroying solidarity, unnecessarily blaming the victims without understanding or empathy.

            • supermangoman [he/him, they/them]
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              4 years ago

              The millions of innocents slaughtered by American imperialism are absolutely victims.

              And so is the American father who gets blown up in Iraq the day before his child is born, all for the sake of America's lust for oil.

              Saying "they had a choice" ignores materialism and the influences the system has upon all of us.

              Active soldiers, vets, and people that do not yet have class consciousness. When they see there's these stupid hysterics, this blame for American policy on the individual soldiers, they're going to think you're an unreasonable dingbat. And they'd have a point. It absolutely fractures solidarity.

            • supermangoman [he/him, they/them]
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              4 years ago

              Tell me, are soldiers called into action due to a proto fascist insurrection, sleeping a night in a parking garage, the same as a group of the Whermacht burning down a village?

                • supermangoman [he/him, they/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  I'm assuming you divined this information with a burnt sacrifice to the ghost of Lenin?

                  Hot fucking take: people aren't responsible for what they didn't do.

                    • supermangoman [he/him, they/them]
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                      4 years ago

                      No, I'm saying American troops that haven't committed war crimes aren't responsible for war crimes.

                      I know, mind fucking blown.

                      If they are responsible, so is every single tax payer that has allowed a dollar to go towards the many illegal and immoral wars we wage abroad.

                      Except, blaming all tax payers seems stupid, right? Because it is the capitalist class, and more importantly, the emergent system that greases its gears with blood that is to blame.

                      Your hatred is directed towards fellow exploited cogs in the system. It's just easy to hate something that you can put a face to.

                        • supermangoman [he/him, they/them]
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                          4 years ago

                          I absolutely disagree with:

                          Troops do choose to join the military, knowing full-well what the military does and is responsible for, making them directly responsible for enabling these actions.

                          You think that every kid signing up for the military gets this? Or, coming from abject poverty, should choose a minimum wage factory job?

                          That's beyond unreasonable. And again, your hatred for these individuals? There is no value in it.