GME is the only time where investment is fine and dandy - you're not reaming over any workers, we're just getting scraps from a fight between some hedge-funds. And that's great, I'm in on it too. I love the memes, it makes me happy to see people share posts about being debt-free (hopefully I will be too when this is all over), being able to afford medical expenses, or just finally catching a break in this hell-year. This is the one time it's ok to invest in a stock. Suddenly turning around and wanting to "invest" is not great, and does not bring me joy. The gains you make trading stocks, are taken directly out of a workers pocket. It's not an honest dollar.
Shareholders and wall-street guys aren't hated because they're rich (exclusively). They're hated because they're parasites. They add no value, they do nothing.
If you are a stocktrader, or dependent on it for your life, I'm not trying to hit you with lifestyleism. You do you. But don't start asking for an investment community on a leftist forum - like we're not struggling enough with chuds. What are you gonna do; hit us with a quote from Marx, whilst putting out some info on why Target is the next big thing?

To make it big as a stock trader, you have to have a shitton of money already. Whatever it is you're working with, it's pennies compared to even the tiniest hedgefund (and if it's not :stalin-shining: wtf you doing here?)
If you make it big trading stocks, your material interests are directly opposed to that of the working class.
If you donate all your gains, you will not be able to effectively trade.
If you don't donate your gains, why are you doing this?
No matter what you do, you're expropriating wealth from workers. Who are you to decide where their money goes?

"They will sell us the rope..." "Marx was a day-trader..." yadayadayada
TRUE
Marx was a daytrader way back before high-frequency-trading. Stalin was a bankrobber, Lenin probably did some spooky shit too. A lot of those guys did a whole bunch of crimes. STEAL THE ROPE.

Sorry for the rant.

    • fuckwit [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      A. People fetishizing or at least romanticizing their own poverty, which I totally get the impulse to do but should not be done, being poor fucking sucks and the endgame here is nobody being poor, and B. Petty Bouge fail kids/ upwardly mobile middle class folks making money that is objectively 2x what the rest of us make but pretending like they’re poor.

      fucking preach brother. Like, yes, the market is evil, but criticising people for trying to not be poor because you are so fucking comfortable in your own material conditions is just punching down and describes the complete impotency of the western left. Increasingly, it feels like the left in this country is not about improving the lives of other people and having empathy, but about fostering camaraderie around being smug and morally superior to other people. I've met these people irl and they're all fucking aesthetic chasers living the poor life while they wait to inherit their suburban mansion from mommy and daddy.

      REGARDLESS, it would be great to have a comm where we could debate this because I'm still personally very conflicted about this. This is uncharted territory and I would love to hear what Marxist scholars have to say about it.

      • agoddamncheeto [any]
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        3 years ago

        I hear you, but I mean we all operate under this system. More wealth was redistributed today than any US politician has done in their lifetime. The problem is the redistribution isn’t wide enough, you need some market knowledge, technology and initial capital to the even attempt this. But I won’t lie and say I’m not enjoying seeing this play out, heck one of the White House reporters said the administration is “monitoring the situation”. If this causes fear and panic in the market that’s fucking hilarious

    • _else [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      make something. provide a service.

      OR FUCKING STEAL HONESTLY!

      real praxis is crime. it's always crime.

      • agoddamncheeto [any]
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        3 years ago

        Is isn’t even stealing, it’s just collectively playing their own game better then they are

        • _else [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          no, I mean do something respectable like honest crime. which is good.

          and wha tyou're doing is stealing. someone always loses, and you're not making or doing anything for anyone. as good as it feels to have that brief rush of capitalist bliss.

          and you're not playing their game. this isn't the real rules. this is the fake rules they tell us so we think its fair. if you count cards at the casino, they throw your ass out.

          • agoddamncheeto [any]
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            3 years ago

            Sure but there isn’t anything against counting cards like a law or whatever. If you can count cards and get away with it good on you. In fact as we work to change the ownership of the casino more people should learn to count cards in the meantime

            • _else [she/her,they/them]
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              3 years ago

              k but what im saying is; once you get banned for that, you can't go back.

              without a gun and a cool mask and a getaway driver and a team member who you're sure will betray you and another guy who actually betrays you.

            • _else [she/her,they/them]
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              3 years ago

              also: FUCK laws. you'll never have a revolution "following the laws". even the centralized folks are examples of that. :stalin: