Xi shakes hands with Netanyahu: “I mean come on guys he HAS to do that, 5D chess and all.”

  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    The only honest reading of AOC’s foreign policy is that she has none worth talking about. It’s effectively not part of her job description. The president runs the business end of foreign policy almost unilaterally on everything short of an Iraq-scale invasion. AOC has had one term in the House and wasn’t even on any foreign policy committees. Votes on this or that foreign policy issue are almost always tied to some domestic program specifically to brow beat anyone who would vote against it.

    Any opinion on AOC’s foreign policy is just reading tea leaves. It’s trying to guess intentions not even based on substantive actions, but on peripheral stuff like "hey troops in the capitol, my office has snacks if you want them." There is zero excuse to interpret that stuff in the worst possible light, and calling for socialists to oppose AOC based on something she has no real influence over is beyond counterproductive.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I mean:

        I am very concerned about U.S. interventionism in Venezuela and I oppose it,” she said, explaining that she particularly opposes the leadership of U.S. Special Envoy to Venezuela Elliott Abrams, who is known for pleading guilty to two misdemeanor counts of withholding information from Congress during the Reagan administration’s Iran-Contra scandal. President George H.W. Bush pardoned Abrams in 1992.

        I am generally opposed to U.S. interventionism as a principle, but particularly under this administration and under his leadership I think it’s a profound mistake,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

        She also called the Bolivian coup a coup. Again, there's zero excuse for interpreting ticky-tacky stuff in the worst possible light when she has clear statements like this.

      • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        You have no business calling yourself a “socialist”, or running on a socialist platform

        Did she?

    • xXSWCC_DaddyYOLOXx [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      That's not a rule, legislators can and should call out, you know, the genocidal wars being waged every day, especially if it's on brand for so called socialists.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        In terms of actual power to influence real-world outcomes, it's absolutely a rule. The president can order troops out of whatever country you can think of; AOC can't.

        As for calling out genocidal wars:

        I remember a time when it was “unacceptable” to question the Iraq War.

        All of Congress was wrong, including both GOP & Dem Party, and led my generation into a disastrous + wrong war that virtually all would come to regret, except for the one member who stood up: Barbara Lee.

        What is there to be upset at here?

        • xXSWCC_DaddyYOLOXx [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          That doesn't mean they can't talk about it to draw attention, especially if they have a popular following that the media at large would be forced to cover. Wow, she worked up the courage to say the Iraq war was bad 18 years after the fact, when's the last time she uttered the word Yemen? I await your Google results. Is it really so much to ask that so called leftists stop playing 5d chess with Pelosi long enough to oppose the current mass murder campaign?

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            She's spoken out about Yemen a number of times. Keep moving the goalposts, though -- that's a fast track to One True Leftist territory.

            • xXSWCC_DaddyYOLOXx [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              Lol yeah you mean to blame Iran? Expecting leftists to actually oppose bloody imperial wars is just a bridge too far I guess

        • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          What is there to be upset at here?

          I think most folks who've been here a while can see exactly what some users are trying to do.