The use of a death penalty is not very controversial in China. The western left cares about this issue a lot more. Justice reform efforts here focus on other aspects.
The number does not reveal the whole sentiment. It is not the biggest issue for most who oppose it and the objection does not look the same as the western discussion of the issue.
this is like saying "it's very imperialist and racist to criticize the illegality of homosexuality in the middle east"
ik that's a hyperbolic example, but you can't expect everyone to respect a value/practice that can be reactionary and infringe on human rights. not to blame individual chinese people for being fine with it, and it might not be a big deal, but that doesn't mean we can't call out the practice regardless of the country.
Sure, death penalties are a problem though, outside of crisis and conflict. That is when the productive forces are developed as they are in China. The tradition of execution can also be traced to pre-Socialist movements and practices of parts of what we now call China (and the fucking imperialist Brits who used it at every opportunity). As such it predates Marxist-dialectical understandings and isn't just to be supported for the sake of it being practiced.
That said, Central Park looks good at this time of the year.
I mean we don’t have to cheerlead it but everyone’s all “eat the rich” and “break out the guillotines” until someone actually does it to a billionaire that is much worse than even the average billionaire.
I would generally agree with you regarding effectiveness, except that being as there are only a few thousand billionaires on the planet, I reckon that executions would be pretty effective at resolving that problem.
Some of us believe in restorative justice but go off.
China reformed their former emperor after all lol.
Exactly.
The use of a death penalty is not very controversial in China. The western left cares about this issue a lot more. Justice reform efforts here focus on other aspects.
Doesn't mean I have to cheerlead their executions though does it?
it's certainly less controversial than in the west but I don't think it's universally accepted, i believe around 60-80% of the population supports it
The number does not reveal the whole sentiment. It is not the biggest issue for most who oppose it and the objection does not look the same as the western discussion of the issue.
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this is like saying "it's very imperialist and racist to criticize the illegality of homosexuality in the middle east"
ik that's a hyperbolic example, but you can't expect everyone to respect a value/practice that can be reactionary and infringe on human rights. not to blame individual chinese people for being fine with it, and it might not be a big deal, but that doesn't mean we can't call out the practice regardless of the country.
Sure, death penalties are a problem though, outside of crisis and conflict. That is when the productive forces are developed as they are in China. The tradition of execution can also be traced to pre-Socialist movements and practices of parts of what we now call China (and the fucking imperialist Brits who used it at every opportunity). As such it predates Marxist-dialectical understandings and isn't just to be supported for the sake of it being practiced.
That said, Central Park looks good at this time of the year.
I mean we don’t have to cheerlead it but everyone’s all “eat the rich” and “break out the guillotines” until someone actually does it to a billionaire that is much worse than even the average billionaire.
Restorative justice for the proles, liquidation for the bouge
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I would generally agree with you regarding effectiveness, except that being as there are only a few thousand billionaires on the planet, I reckon that executions would be pretty effective at resolving that problem.
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