https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1355113169962692610

  • FDR [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Wasn’t a billionaire and executions by the state, especially only 2 weeks after the trial, are not things to be celebrated :comrade-doggo:

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      4 years ago

      Everyone's all rah rah guillotine emoji eat the rich until it actually happens

      • FDR [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        wouldn’t it be better to just throw him in a labor camp for the rest of his days, executions have been proven to not be an effective deterrent for crime.

        China also executes people for drug charges, I hope you wouldn’t agree with that being something good

        • FireAxel [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          IMO leaving these rich & powerful people alive is always dangerous, it's better to just get rid of them. Plus, if the CCP was ever to collapse, at least there won't be a possibility of these people getting freed from jail -- which you know would happen if some pro-western group was to take power in the country.

          But yeah, I don't think random drug dealers should be executed.

          • ChairmanXi [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            "wouldn’t it be better to just throw him in a labor camp for the rest of his days" No. This guy's execution good, drug dealer's execution bad (unless they're CIA or something)

      • Sealand_macronation [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        after 2008 issuing the death sentence for a couple of corrupt bourgeois fuckers

        America only arrested one or two guys, China is much better, they go after ten or twelve!

        • FireAxel [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          One or two unimportant low-level scapegoats that got a very light punishment. This guy was actually powerful and influential.

    • Randomdog [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah much better for the state to execute someone before their trial even when they've not been accused of any wrongdoing..... RIIIIIIiiiiiiighhhhtttt?

        • ap1 [any,undecided]
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          4 years ago

          How tf did you get downvoted? Like I get why but not how

          • Randomdog [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Testing the theory to see if one can remove one's own upvote and make it show as a zero

            Edit: Yep that's how. Removed the default upvote.

  • domhnall [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I'm not a believer in state-sanctioned capital punishment on principle, but I'm not gonna lose much sleep over this one.

  • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of billionaires to kill. Deng made sure to supply the state with a fresh quantity of billionaires so they could get chopped later :deng-smile:

    • skeletorsass [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      The use of a death penalty is not very controversial in China. The western left cares about this issue a lot more. Justice reform efforts here focus on other aspects.

      • radicalhomo [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        it's certainly less controversial than in the west but I don't think it's universally accepted, i believe around 60-80% of the population supports it

        • skeletorsass [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          The number does not reveal the whole sentiment. It is not the biggest issue for most who oppose it and the objection does not look the same as the western discussion of the issue.

            • radicalhomo [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              this is like saying "it's very imperialist and racist to criticize the illegality of homosexuality in the middle east"

              ik that's a hyperbolic example, but you can't expect everyone to respect a value/practice that can be reactionary and infringe on human rights. not to blame individual chinese people for being fine with it, and it might not be a big deal, but that doesn't mean we can't call out the practice regardless of the country.

            • JuneFall [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Sure, death penalties are a problem though, outside of crisis and conflict. That is when the productive forces are developed as they are in China. The tradition of execution can also be traced to pre-Socialist movements and practices of parts of what we now call China (and the fucking imperialist Brits who used it at every opportunity). As such it predates Marxist-dialectical understandings and isn't just to be supported for the sake of it being practiced.

              That said, Central Park looks good at this time of the year.

    • EldritchMayo [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      I mean we don’t have to cheerlead it but everyone’s all “eat the rich” and “break out the guillotines” until someone actually does it to a billionaire that is much worse than even the average billionaire.

        • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          I would generally agree with you regarding effectiveness, except that being as there are only a few thousand billionaires on the planet, I reckon that executions would be pretty effective at resolving that problem.

  • radicalhomo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    why are all 300 to 600 chinese billionaires still alive anyways? stealing workers' surplus value should be the line, not full on bribery and corruption

      • CommCat [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        people seem to forget that China is a former victim of Western Imperialism, why would they even bother seeking the approval of their former oppressors? It's like Westerners, even leftists, think China owes them an explanation for everything they do. If an African nation should ever rise to the level of global prominence like China has, I would expect them to tell their former oppressors to fuck off and mind their own business.

  • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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    4 years ago

    oh great, now the poly people are gonna cancel China

    /actually reads article

    Lai Xiaomin, who accepted bribes of over 1.79 billion yuan ($277 million),

    This mfer took 277 million in bribes as a member of the CCP, why does his secret marriage matter lmao