I genuinely went to read this in good faith since it's The Intercept (I know it's not great, but it's not CNN) but decided to do a quick text search for Zenz just to make sure. And of course, the whole fucking thing is full of Zenz.

This is just ridiculous at this point. I really don't want to be a genocide-denier if there is actually one happening, but for fuck's sake this is just ridiculous, LET ME SEE ONE REPORT ON THIS WITHOUT ZENZ ALL OVER IT.

    • TheCaconym [any]
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      4 years ago

      If you think shaving the heads of prisoners, putting them like this on the ground, and blindfolding them is OK then I'm not sure what to tell you. As for them being "regular" prisoners, that's what I suspected too when the photo first came up, thanks.

      Testimonies are worth dirt, frankly.

      Not really ? though I'll admit trying to get to the bottom of what's happening with the Uyghurs in China is hell - so much disinformation, so much of it connected to that shithead Zenz. To my eyes something really bad (though clearly not genocide, but cultural erasure ? maybe) is happening, but I can't be sure and I'd really like to be able to actually find out more with certainty.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        4 years ago

        Testimonies are the go to method of spreading atrocity propaganda specifically because "I don't see a reason to think they are lying or CIA plants", its something used against every enemy of the west constantly 24/7 to create this miasma of "This country is evil and must be opposed".

        • TheCaconym [any]
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          4 years ago

          Right, sorry if I overreacted a bit. Moreover, if you have actual reliable sources about the Uyghurs thing in general I'll take them.

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Super hot take - Zenz is a Chinese agent meant to disrupt the discussion on the detention program.

        • TheCaconym [any]
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          4 years ago

          Nah, he checks all the boxes for an US disinformation campaign.

            • TheCaconym [any]
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              4 years ago

              I though you may not be at first (because it's so ridiculous) but I wasn't 100% sure, sorry. Preferred to assume you were serious in case I made an hurtful comment directly assuming it was a bit.