These people about to grillpill themselves unto wikipedia's "Apocalyptic groups" Category page

  • Iminhere3000 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Haven't had a chance to look at the sub since it's locked but I really don't get the cultlike fervor around the cushvlogs. I've said it before but grillpill or whatever is just "turn on, tune in, drop out". Who fucking cares. Anyway, as far as I'm concerned brooklyn podcast hosts pulling down that kind of $ and not putting any of it into organizing or community work can all rot in hell

    • AluminiumXmasTrees [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I don't get why no one has pointed out that Matt's "Grillpill breakthrough" is literally just Trostkyism. He's become a trot. That's it.

      Have people just not actually read any theory?

        • AluminiumXmasTrees [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Matt basically thinks that the left Should pursue revolution as their primary and only goal and that is the only way to achieve anything because the system is fuckednand compromise is meaningless. It's a nihilistic take on Trotsky's permanent revolution.

          However Matt's major "addition" to this is that revolution is impossible because the people are so alienated by the system they aren't going to revolt and because you should accept no compromise because everything has failed so far the ultimate solution is to embrace nihilism and do nothing.

          That's what he was preaching in the early days of lockdown anyway. There are other Trotsky elements too but that's the main thrust. It's nihilistic Trotskyism.

          • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            do nothing

            He was pretty explicitly not saying this but OK. What I took away from it was to focus on local action that seems meaningful to you.

            • AluminiumXmasTrees [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              OK in that case it's virtually identical to British Trotskyism and I have even less time for it.

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      not putting any of it into organizing or community work

      Lol we're just gonna keep repeating this bullshit, huh? The subreddit is back, baby! 😎

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      grillpill or whatever is just “turn on, tune in, drop out”.

      no it isn't