No one was even trying to be misogynistic or hateful towards women is the thing. They were describing something they don’t like about a podcast that happens to have two women. That doesn’t mean you need to go around replying on several comrades comments that they are being misogynists and to stop being sexist. You came at them with more direct hostility than they had indirectly.
And I’ve completely separated the fact that you are a woman with the toxicity, unreasonableness, and target painting.
Intent is everything. No one was out right intentionally being sexist, and the comments I saw seemed to be scolding them for being those things. I understand how it can be sexist, but nothing here appeared to be anyone being like that (at the time this started). It looked like someone went “I don’t like vocal fry” and you said “you guys need to stop being sexist/Misogynist.”
I just meant that I don’t think being a woman is why those things came up. Like you are being those as a person, not specifically as a woman.
I completely understand why and how it is sexist. It is an audio stimulation that mainly occurs in young women. Since it is associated with young women certain social and cultural norms arise from not only hearing it, but thinking about it as well. Due to these social and cultural norms, people will start to negatively associate vocal fry with women because it could be any number of negative effects that could bother someone. Then it just gets molded into outright misogyny if let unchecked.
I’m at work so I’m typing fast and probably not using the correct language. I don’t mean it’s a choice. It’s just how they sound or what their voice does. Yes you said it yourself that it occurs mainly in women but also does in young men too.
I WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING ANNOYED BY MALE VOCAL FRY AND I WAS STILL CALLED A MISOGYNIST BECAUSE IT IS MAINLY ATTRIBUTED TO WOMEN.
I’m so fucking done with all of this. :ban-hammer: please. Purge me and my misogyny since I’m just a stupid moron apparently that hates women
No one was even trying to be misogynistic or hateful towards women is the thing. They were describing something they don’t like about a podcast that happens to have two women. That doesn’t mean you need to go around replying on several comrades comments that they are being misogynists and to stop being sexist. You came at them with more direct hostility than they had indirectly.
And I’ve completely separated the fact that you are a woman with the toxicity, unreasonableness, and target painting.
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Intent is everything. No one was out right intentionally being sexist, and the comments I saw seemed to be scolding them for being those things. I understand how it can be sexist, but nothing here appeared to be anyone being like that (at the time this started). It looked like someone went “I don’t like vocal fry” and you said “you guys need to stop being sexist/Misogynist.”
I just meant that I don’t think being a woman is why those things came up. Like you are being those as a person, not specifically as a woman.
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I’m over all of this. Just take your victory, remove my comments, and ban me so I can fuck off.
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I completely understand why and how it is sexist. It is an audio stimulation that mainly occurs in young women. Since it is associated with young women certain social and cultural norms arise from not only hearing it, but thinking about it as well. Due to these social and cultural norms, people will start to negatively associate vocal fry with women because it could be any number of negative effects that could bother someone. Then it just gets molded into outright misogyny if let unchecked.
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I’m at work so I’m typing fast and probably not using the correct language. I don’t mean it’s a choice. It’s just how they sound or what their voice does. Yes you said it yourself that it occurs mainly in women but also does in young men too.
I WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING ANNOYED BY MALE VOCAL FRY AND I WAS STILL CALLED A MISOGYNIST BECAUSE IT IS MAINLY ATTRIBUTED TO WOMEN.
I’m so fucking done with all of this. :ban-hammer: please. Purge me and my misogyny since I’m just a stupid moron apparently that hates women