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Dasha and Anna From red scare are weird as fuck
Removed by modWhat’s the appeal of that podcast again?
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if you're a socialist man it provides an outlet for your misogyny
I tried listening to that podcast because it used to get namedropped a lot on the old sub.
They were talking about some incomprehensible NYC art world drama and I was like what the fuck is this
Yeah after all the ironic cum town and chapo posting about it i checked it out and it was a mix of dogshit politics and especially pointless and insular drama...
How does that appeal to anyone?
They were talking about some incomprehensible NYC art world drama
Yep, I listened to the first episode before I knew who they were and this was my experience. Didn't make it to the second.
Yeah I read the article you linked elsewhere. It’s not sexist to think vocal fry is annoying or that I don’t want it piercing my ears while at work. It can be used that way but I don’t think people here are doing that.
i once listened to a whole radio program on NPR (yeah I didn't pick it) where two guys had this exact same argument about how its awful and shit. one guy pointed out that he'd been doing it the whole time but since he was a guy it hadn't bothered anyone.
there was an awkward silence, and the arguments just came back up without acknowledging it, because libs are shit. I look forward to the more creative more intellectually rigorous bullshit excuse you'll come up with for this same phenomenon.
most men don't notice they're listening to a man with vocal fry unless its pointed out to them, often while making that same argument. the voices don't ping as annoying. ive seen it a billion times during the great vocal fry learning-what-that-word-means the libs had like a decade ago. do you really think you're special. ive heard multiple recorded examples. im telling you you only think its annoying because its associated with young women, who are supposed to be something that's inconsequential.
Some people’s voices are just annoying. Doesn’t have to be a woman, this specific instance is talking about two though. No one is saying they should change the way they speak. Everyone here is saying they don’t listen to it. Calm the fuck down and stop trying to paint a target on your back.
okay but preferences aren't magical things that spring forth from the fucking ether. they're based on shit. they're connected to things. usually cultural biases and implications and values and shit. preferences CAN be problematic. if you're trying to avoid that so aggressively, it's because you know most of yours are rooted in problematic shit.
because if you can't ask more of your fucking desires, of your literal fucking aspirations, how can you ask more of literally anyone or anything?
This specific instance picked up on VOCAL FRY. Vocal frying is pretty much only done by young women, and they've been shit on for it for no reason, just like how young women get shit on for everything else. Maybe the actual act of vocal fry isn't annoying, rather it's just that society has told you it is.
This is a serious question, without a trace of irony: Do you think it is possible to dislike vocal fry (in any person) without it being rooted in conscious or unconscious misogyny? Roughly speaking what percentage would you estimate is due to benign preference vs. some sort of misogyny? 50:50, 25:75, 5:95? If, for the sake of argument, mine is just benign preference, are you saying I should change my preference, or just not vocalize my preference?
Totally cool that all the comments here got deleted, but not the responses lying about why I said in them. Totally a cool thing to do.
But I unironically immediately thought the guy reading the intro (ira glass?) to have an annoying voice while none of the women bothered me. Is that misogyny?
Saying that vocal fry is more often noticed in women and that that is a bad thing is an understandable position. What is not understandable is saying that ever criticizing vocal fry is misogyny. I have no strong feelings about Red Scare one way or the other. I opened their most recent episode and skipped to the middle to listen, and while their regular voices are tolerable, at times they draw out words in the most grating manner! Are you going to say that drawing out one word over 3 seconds like that is not a choice?
Literally didn't address any of that. All you said was vocal fry has a sexist background, so any and all criticism of vocal fry must be sexist
isnt it mostly horny dudes who saw one of them in a skimpy sailor outfit that one time?
They were gonna get married. And have children and move into the soprano house.
Not sure I know what vocal fry is, but I just googled it and apparently a good example is Chomsky's creaky voice? Is this an American thing?
Is it an american thing to overly fixate on it? Like dang, there's gotta be better reasons to dislike red scare.
Edit: So I went on YouTube to find some examples and instead found some infuriating boomers freaking out at the way young people talk these days. Pretty funny that the speech pattern they insist "makes you sound dumb" is shared by the most famous linguist alive (and at least one lesser known one).
I like to make vocal fry jokes with the rest of them but “quit trying to defend it” - like, it’s just the way people (predominately young American women) talk? Aside from like, speech therapy or intensive effort, people don’t really have a choice how their speech develops, it’s not like a put-on affectation to irritate you specifically.
I mean, I’ve definitely had people’s voices trigger some of my sensory/auditory sensitivity issues, but I also recognize that’s 100% my problem to deal with.
It’s irritating dude, I don’t know what to tell you.
The question mark thing after talk was irritating as well.
[echoing] :brace-cowboy: CHK-CHK CHK CHK-CHK CHK-CHK CHK-CHK CHK :brace-cowboy:
Ilana hooks up with Dasha, but then gets put off by how nasty she is to the staff at the place they get breakfast the next morning. Dasha keep trying to peaty llana into another hookup, ends up seducing Abby instead.
Damn shoulda written for that show.
Cumtown is at least kinda funny sometimes if you can get past the slurs
I mean the struggle session is sometimes cuntown has great bits and you have to deal with enjoying something terrible.
Red scare is about processing the your emotions from your pre-woke period and realizeing that you aren't actually a better person than you used to be and how to carry on your new york art girl life with that knowlege.
Red scare is about processing the your emotions from your pre-woke period and realizeing that you aren’t actually a better person than you used to be and how to carry on your new york art girl life with that knowlege.
I’ve... never really picked that up from the show
I could be full of shit then, who knows. I am not going to go back and find out
You make it sound way more interesting than the one episode I listened to
Yeah, super weird that they basically got popular by being 2 steps away from actual leftist podcasts and now they just coast on being skinny and mean
