i think a lot of people get them mixed up

and the criticism is still bullshit and anyone complaining about frequency here is literally just saying bigoted bullshit and blaming cis women for adjusting voices to their culture to gain respect. its a no-win situation and you're perpetuating it. so yes, oops, wrong thing, but also I think some other people were talking about the wrong thing, and shitting on either is bullshit. you do not find those frequencies annoying from a material perspective, this is cultural and cultural biases should always be interrogated..