We all know the hypocrisies of the pro- Israel stances, I’m not going into specific arguments but it’s just everywhere. Normal people seem to have bought in even quicker than they did with supporting Ukraine. it’s awful. Free Palestine.

  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    my partner who is in trade school right now was suprised to overhear a conversation where some guy was like "i used to support israel but.." and then had a bunch of good, pro-palestine takes. everyone there generally agreed with him. sure it's anecdotal but really makes me wonder how much of this is pure astroturfing and manufactured consent. also today my co-worker also felt me out a bit and then had good takes of his own about the situation.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Israel puts a huge effort into astroturfing, like really massive, and most major social media in the US either has former CIA/State Dept. goons in management or just directly work with the feds. I think internet takes on this are probably massively manipulated.

    • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I think there's a lot of astroturf. I scrolled down on one of the reddit-logo threads and saw a lot comments written like they're replies. Either reddit's broken, or a bot fucked up and posted threads to the top level, or people with strong feelings about Israel don't know how to reply to comments on reddit.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/174kae0/more_than_100_bodies_found_in_israeli_kibbutz/

      Comments by tibbles1, LeftLeftRightRight, jiaxingseng, notaredditer13 and probably many others are written like replies and quote comments that I can't find. Although there are a lot of deleted comments.

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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        1 year ago

        on the topic of Reddit:

        “I know what it’s like to live under censorship,” [Ashooh] said. “My internal check, when I’m arguing for a restrictive policy on the site, is Do I sound like an Arab government? If so, maybe I should scale it back.” On the other hand, she said, “people hide behind the notion that there’s a bright line between ideology and action, but some ideologies are inherently more violent than others.”

        • Jessica Ashooh, director of policy at Reddit.

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        Check out that list of credits. The Atlantic Council corroborates it: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jessica-ashooh/

    • SuperZutsuki [they/them, any]
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      1 year ago

      People in trade school probably aren't in the turbo-lib bubble so their brains are still less than 50% worm