• Woly [any]
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    4 years ago

    Deep-fried Nate, served up on a Silver platter

  • regenerativedespair [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    hahaha this is brutal

    in all seriousness, let's hope the vaccine i just got doesn't have any serious side effects. i'm in the risk category for it soooo :virgil-sad:

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      Obviously, the problem isn't that we stick patents on every variation of the remedy and engage in a profit-maximizing war of all-against-all. The problem is that we're not pushing untested treatments out the door fast enough, and turning the most vulnerable members of society into guinea pigs.

  • LibsEatPoop2 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    idk why but i just don't fucking trust these vaccines. before moving to the left, even during my bernie days, i was fully into meritocracies and technocracies and welfare-state and all that. i would always trust medical expertise and drugs/vaccines etc. but now, after learning more and some personal experiences with the medical industry as a whole, i just don't fucking trust these vaccines and even hesitate to take regular meds.

    • garbology [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It was reasonable enough to question the fast track of these vaccines like 4 months ago, but they've all been given to millions of people who are being monitored. Covid-19 itself has long-term side-effects, and vaccines rarely do, so you're definitely better off taking the vaccine than getting the 'rona.

      For "regular meds", you should always try to medicate as little as necessary and carefully study each medicine, but being dubious of the entire concept of medicine is unwarranted. Just look up how to be a good patient advocate for yourself and ask smart questions to your doc(s).

      • LibsEatPoop2 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        that's good advice. thanks. i was mostly scared of discovering some long-term side effect from the vaccine a decade from now (especially when i heard that the companies won't be held liable for them).

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        Just look up how to be a good patient advocate for yourself and ask smart questions to your doc(s).

        I mean, the general practitioners doling out the shot aren't going to know much more than you do. Given the stress endemic to the American medical profession, they also aren't heavily invested in your personal outcomes so much as they are in cycling through their workload as quickly as possible. If this shot is safe for 98% (or 99.9% or 99.99%) of the population , your physician may not know, have the resources to check, or have a vested interest in finding out which bucket you're in.

        The impact that the second shot has on people varies significantly. My father-in-law and a friend of mine both had 102+ fevers after that second dose, while a couple of pharmacy friends who got it mostly just complained of sore arms.

        Nobody is predicting how it'll hit you, personally, in advance shy of some very broad indicators (extreme age, immune deficiency, etc). They're just jabbing arms and moving on.

        While I agree its better we're doing this than not, I don't think it's fair to make this a "patient advocacy" issue when there's simply not enough information or resource to make a call more informed than "Getting real COVID would probably be worse for me".

        This whole process is geared towards "reopening quickly" rather than "minimizing loss of human life".

    • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Statistically, despite all the grift, it's clear that you should take regular meds and you should take the vaccines. Yes, the practices aren't nearly as good as they could be, but to be truthful a lot of things in pharma don't need to be all that perfect.