I'm not completely versed on the subject, but from my understanding RSS was actually intentionally killed off in a premeditated manner as it allowed users to choose how they interacted with the endless feed of streams that were emerging from some social media corners of the 'net. They wanted control, complete control, over what you would see and what you would have to scroll for hours to see and what you'd never see even if you scrolled forever. There was also some beef between Atom vs RSS I guess, which contributed to its downfall. But I remember using shit like Google Reader and having a level of control unimaginable to propriatery feeds like FaceBook and InstaGram.

So I say, bring it back! Lets have an RSS Renaissance, (I guess this is technically an XML doc, but it severs the same purpose). I've been wanting this to happen for years now, this is actually a fairly political issue and I hope everyone takes the correct side on it

  • regenerativedespair [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I will say though, the design of this site is pretty fucking bad lol. it doesn't even load AT ALL without javascript. Unusable over tor browser.

    • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Yes, the connection to the server is done via websockets. This allows for real-time updates, and other very neat features.

      The flipside is that websockets only works via Javascript. There is no plan to change this, really.

      If you absolutely must disable Javascript at any cost, a way to access the website without enabling Javascript over Tor would be to use the Lemmy Android app.

      Alternatively, each community as well as "All" has an RSS feed for posts, which you may use if you want a fully static access to posts. I'm not sure if comments work, though, and voting certainly won't.

      • regenerativedespair [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        on an android phone? that...defeats the purpose of tor.

        I'll still use this website, but frankly https://www.raddle.me has such a better interface and ethical framework,from a technical standpoint. They even have an .onion.

        edit: that's a good point, but i don't wanna just lurk i want the internet validation points and people to validate the music i listen to. I AM VALID DAMMIT

        • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          It's not necessary to use an android phone. There are emulators and even transpilers that should allow to run the app on Linux or Windows.

          In theory once fédération is implemented it should be possible to use raddle-type sites to interface with chapo

          • regenerativedespair [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Sure, I could run chapo.chat in a virtual machine too, but like...this is bad design, i guess is my point. We are a group of terrorist and terrorist sympathizers, from the government's perspective.

            Hm, that would be cool. Maybe i'll try to host one when that's more implemented.

            • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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              4 years ago

              I mean, from a pure security point of view first-party JS isn't that much of a risk from us, and you could monitor if the JS you receive is different from the on our git.

              That said, I'm really not sure if this is still the case, bbut as some point it was possible to selfhost the front-end for this website so that you could make sure you wouldn't get served any Javascript from outside your computer.

              But yeah, I understand. Also, you deserve internet validation points.

                • regenerativedespair [she/her]
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                  4 years ago

                  Would take a look at this. I've been meaning to experiment with setting up a tor hidden service anyway, just for the sysadmin experience.

                  • TheCaconym [any]
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                    4 years ago

                    If you're interested in this and have questions or need advice, feel free to PM me, I have extensive experience with both tor setups and sysadmin stuff.

          • regenerativedespair [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            I'm glad that you all spoke about it and came to decision together, I can see the other perspective too to a certain extent. Regardless, I think you are right that federation will hopefully allow an autonomous instance that fills the niche needs I am talking about.