link the thread? idk what you're referring to specifically.
and yeah, you can critique imperialist attitudes, but the vast majority of the time, I see that just thrown out as an excuse to not have a discussion about the faults of ML countries. like, we should be able to have a discussion about the CCP's not great attitudes towards lgbtq people, or the working conditions of the working class in Vietnam, without that conversation being immediately shut down by someone throwing out bad faith accusations of justifying imperialism. one can point out the poor treatment of certain people in certain places without wanting to invade or sanction that place.
if we refuse to look at why or how things are bad in socialist projects across the world, we will never learn what went wrong to get to that point, and how we can address it in a future effort.
my browser crashed while I was like halfway through a thorough response. plz kill me.
my main points were it always feels like any source not directly funded by the Chinese government is dismissed as propaganda, and that's only if I'm not directly insulted for even insinuating a slight flaw with some cis dudes favorite country. and yeah, I don't recall seeing any anarchists cheering on the coup in Bolivia. the difference is anarchists don't really give a shit who is doing the oppressing, just that oppression is bad, and they don't really give a shit if the US likes or doesn't like that place. I don't see many anarchists talking favorably about Israel, or Saudi Arabia, or england, for example. and they're all friends with america. it just so happens some of the countries we don't like also don't get along with america, but that doesn't mean they deserve our support. like, I remember some dude baked flag cookies of socialist countries, plus modern day russia. when I asked why, they said its bc critical support for Russia bc they're enemies of the US. but russia still sucks, even if theyre not friends with america.
oh yeah, the link too. think you sent the wrong one. i dont see anything homophobic in that post.
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it seemed more to ask people to stop purity testing them. doesn't sound like they give a shit if someone criticizes China or Cuba or something.
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yeah you're right, when I say China should legalize gay marriage and be less shit to trans people, I'm actually doing colonialism.
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link the thread? idk what you're referring to specifically.
and yeah, you can critique imperialist attitudes, but the vast majority of the time, I see that just thrown out as an excuse to not have a discussion about the faults of ML countries. like, we should be able to have a discussion about the CCP's not great attitudes towards lgbtq people, or the working conditions of the working class in Vietnam, without that conversation being immediately shut down by someone throwing out bad faith accusations of justifying imperialism. one can point out the poor treatment of certain people in certain places without wanting to invade or sanction that place.
if we refuse to look at why or how things are bad in socialist projects across the world, we will never learn what went wrong to get to that point, and how we can address it in a future effort.
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my browser crashed while I was like halfway through a thorough response. plz kill me.
my main points were it always feels like any source not directly funded by the Chinese government is dismissed as propaganda, and that's only if I'm not directly insulted for even insinuating a slight flaw with some cis dudes favorite country. and yeah, I don't recall seeing any anarchists cheering on the coup in Bolivia. the difference is anarchists don't really give a shit who is doing the oppressing, just that oppression is bad, and they don't really give a shit if the US likes or doesn't like that place. I don't see many anarchists talking favorably about Israel, or Saudi Arabia, or england, for example. and they're all friends with america. it just so happens some of the countries we don't like also don't get along with america, but that doesn't mean they deserve our support. like, I remember some dude baked flag cookies of socialist countries, plus modern day russia. when I asked why, they said its bc critical support for Russia bc they're enemies of the US. but russia still sucks, even if theyre not friends with america.
oh yeah, the link too. think you sent the wrong one. i dont see anything homophobic in that post.
https://hexbear.net/post/68087
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