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  • Bubbleboy [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I've never been fully on the China train but all the criticisms journalists and intellectuals give it can all be applied to America. Of course, that also means that criticisms of China are often deflected onto America's problems.

    • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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      4 years ago

      As an american it's hard not to be on the china train. All journalism here about china is just blatant hit pieces or are just extremely dumb.

      Maybe if I had reasonable news about china I would have a much more nuanced take.

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Maybe if I had reasonable news about china I would have a much more nuanced take.

        Despite being explicitly anti-PRC I've found the Chuang collective to ironically give a far more positive and nuanced view of China than any western media, like in their long-form history of economic development in China they actually talk about what the Great Leap Forward even was, why these decisions happened, where the models for it came from, etc instead of the western narrative that Mao personally ate twenty billion sparrows and made all the farmers melt all of their tools which made all the crops fail. Like I came away from reading Sorghum and Steel with a far more positive view of China than before, despite it being literally bookended with flowery leftcom denunciations of China and the CPC. Similarly, their coverage of the Hong Kong riots featuring an interview with Hong Kong anarchists involved in the movement that was like half "Hong Kong cops are in fact bastards on account of being cops" and half "also the broader protest is naive, deeply liberal, sexist, and openly racist and we can't address these things constructively because any dissent is brutally punished by the reactionary elements" did a good job of educating some anarchists I know that the Hong Kong protests were in fact a shitty movement.

        • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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          4 years ago

          That sounds awesome I'll have to check them out

          Mao personally ate twenty billion sparrows and made all the farmers melt all of their tools which made all the crops fail

          Lmao that's literally what they taught us in my highschool, ok maybe not the mao eating them part

      • Whodonedidit [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah does anyone know of any such news sources? I feel like the 'China' section of my knowledge base is a gaping black hole that's altering other takes i have cause its such a contentious topic on the Left today.

        Am I a tankie or what? I dont even know!