• star_wraith [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Completely unrelated but I never get to speak to Spaniards, but I just want to say learning about the Spanish Civil War did a lot to push me towards socialism.

    • camaron28 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Nice.

      Most conservatives or enlighened centrists try to use legitimate criticisms of the republic in order to equate them with Franco.

      Was it a clusterfuck? Yes.

      Were fascists but also probably normal people extrajudicialy killed during the war? Yes

      Were communists killing fascists before the war (and viceversa)? Yes

      Did some communists attempt a revolution that failed soon in 1934 in Asturias? Yes

      AND EVEN THEN, there's a clear "good" and a "bad" side. Ffs, you can win over even some liberals by pointing out that the communists were a minoritarian party before the war.

      Also, some fascists (or idiots) try to justify the coup because a few days earlier a conservative /fascist politician (Calvo Sotelo) was murdered (just like so many other people of all political sides). I don't know if they believe people had phones back then, but a coup can't be organized in a few days. What may be true is that the murder helped Franco decide to give support to the coup because he didn't know what to do before (one good thing i will say about the man is that he was a great opportunist and knew how to seize them), but i would still doubt that.

      • star_wraith [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Typical fascist playbook, cry foul over any wrongs committed by the left while excusing their own bullshit.

        • camaron28 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Eh, i'd say 99% are liberals going all "MMMMMHMMM, this case seems pretty clear-cut, well, time to look for bad stuuf the other side did so i can be superior to both of them".

      • bark [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        CEDA gave over their campaign contributions and they had to woo franco. How does that happen in a day?