Then instead of getting mad at the people whose labor is being exploited by companies like Google, wouldn't it be more productive to work with them to tear the whole system down together?
There's a reason SVDSA techies (ngl that is a large chunk of them, and good for them) always apologize if they have to identify themselves as such. They rightly understand that it is something to be extremely embarassed about. The thing is in that capacity I do actually actively work with tech people to 'tear the whole system down', as you put it (a hilarious thing to suggest of any American leftwing organization, much less DSA, but there you go). The fact is though, if you are poor and from where I am from, it is right to be angry at tech, the asshole coder employees of which being the main interaction you have with it, and they don't do themselves any favors by being 9 times outta 10 rich and very obnoxious dweebs.
In any case I am not in this thread trying to play-act at revolution (not that I don't elsewhere, this is chapochat after all), maybe OP was talking about in a revolutionary sense, and that's its own argument. I am just saying they are lame, they should be ashamed of themselves, I don't wanna date or befriend them, they are distasteful and have a distasteful culture and vibe, fuck apps and fuck them, etc, etc.
I will admit though engineer types are way better than VC tech startup types, who are among the worst scum of the planet
That would surely be strange, luckily I am angry at both in approptiate measure, I'm also angry at cops unbelievably at the same time, and somehow also stock brokers, lots of journalists, lifestyle instagrammers, those people who run brand twitter accounts...
Look, I'm sorry if you're getting a CS degree and feel attacked, I doubt you will have to ever encounter this attitude in real life and that sucks if you do, but I don't see how me saying techies are godawful Muskite wetwipes who trashed the Bay is any worse than anyone shitting on your average chud. If you want a prole revolution you will have to have republican-voting swine along with you also, and yet rightly this site expresses hatred towards them constantly. The main difference is, while there aren't republicans here, there are CS people here, because its a reddit clone. And for those that are, I want them to know: it isn't too late to escape my wrath, just become a game dev or freelance web developer or something, or at least don't wear your logo shirts out in public
Probably, but if I logged off you would have nobody to play your holier-than-thou meme-communist games with and we would both be worse off
This is like when you told me I should talk to some unionized warehouse workers to see what it was really like out there and it turned out that was the only workplace I had ever been in my whole life. What you don't get is, unless you actually are a CS student or techie (in which case lmao) I have had way more encounters with techies than you or the majority of people, inside and outside of an organizing context, personally and in passing. Also, if I went outside and asked any random person here, they would (if they cared) most likely share my opinion, or they would be a techie and the encounter would likely reinforce it. So what you are actually saying when you say "leave your bubble" is "stop being so angry", which sure I guess I should be less spiteful online, fair enough, but fuck you for being a condescending scold
Then instead of getting mad at the people whose labor is being exploited by companies like Google, wouldn't it be more productive to work with them to tear the whole system down together?
There's a reason SVDSA techies (ngl that is a large chunk of them, and good for them) always apologize if they have to identify themselves as such. They rightly understand that it is something to be extremely embarassed about. The thing is in that capacity I do actually actively work with tech people to 'tear the whole system down', as you put it (a hilarious thing to suggest of any American leftwing organization, much less DSA, but there you go). The fact is though, if you are poor and from where I am from, it is right to be angry at tech, the asshole coder employees of which being the main interaction you have with it, and they don't do themselves any favors by being 9 times outta 10 rich and very obnoxious dweebs.
In any case I am not in this thread trying to play-act at revolution (not that I don't elsewhere, this is chapochat after all), maybe OP was talking about in a revolutionary sense, and that's its own argument. I am just saying they are lame, they should be ashamed of themselves, I don't wanna date or befriend them, they are distasteful and have a distasteful culture and vibe, fuck apps and fuck them, etc, etc.
I will admit though engineer types are way better than VC tech startup types, who are among the worst scum of the planet
Imagine being angry at workers who are being exploited instead of the capitalist rulers who are exploiting both of you
That would surely be strange, luckily I am angry at both in approptiate measure, I'm also angry at cops unbelievably at the same time, and somehow also stock brokers, lots of journalists, lifestyle instagrammers, those people who run brand twitter accounts...
Look, I'm sorry if you're getting a CS degree and feel attacked, I doubt you will have to ever encounter this attitude in real life and that sucks if you do, but I don't see how me saying techies are godawful Muskite wetwipes who trashed the Bay is any worse than anyone shitting on your average chud. If you want a prole revolution you will have to have republican-voting swine along with you also, and yet rightly this site expresses hatred towards them constantly. The main difference is, while there aren't republicans here, there are CS people here, because its a reddit clone. And for those that are, I want them to know: it isn't too late to escape my wrath, just become a game dev or freelance web developer or something, or at least don't wear your logo shirts out in public
Basically all I'm saying is you should probably log off and have a conversation with someone outside your bubble of hate and anger
Probably, but if I logged off you would have nobody to play your holier-than-thou meme-communist games with and we would both be worse off
This is like when you told me I should talk to some unionized warehouse workers to see what it was really like out there and it turned out that was the only workplace I had ever been in my whole life. What you don't get is, unless you actually are a CS student or techie (in which case lmao) I have had way more encounters with techies than you or the majority of people, inside and outside of an organizing context, personally and in passing. Also, if I went outside and asked any random person here, they would (if they cared) most likely share my opinion, or they would be a techie and the encounter would likely reinforce it. So what you are actually saying when you say "leave your bubble" is "stop being so angry", which sure I guess I should be less spiteful online, fair enough, but fuck you for being a condescending scold