for example all time greats are:

Intersectionality is opposed Marxism

Queer Theory is opposed to Marxism

Postmodernism is opposed to Marxism

Postcolonialism is opposed to Marxism

Feminism is opposed to Marxism

Identity politics exists because of Stalinism

it's all just shit like that, they seem to fundamentaly oppose any theory after Lenin.

I've tried arguing wih them for example about Intersectionslity, but they just say that it can't incorporate class because then they wouldn't need to use it anymore because it is the only thing that matters.

all reform is useless because it doesn't remove capitalism(black liberation, lgbt+ liberation?)

They now try to explain foucault and described him as anti-marxist.(turns out that's true)

"Queer Theorie says it is reactionary to be cis." "intersectionality leads to infighting about who is the most opressed"

They use postmodernism and idealism as some kind of slurs for ideas and all of the above is idealist, only the material ever matters. Idealism is petit-burgoise, post-modern nonsense

Also they are explicitly anti-pluralist in their organisation and don't want to do anything except growing by recruiting students. Like I can't even convince them to go help the foodbank.

Because these people(at hte foodbank) are apparently too pre-occupied with survuval to educate themselves about marxism. So any energy on them is wasted. They can't be useful as activists and we must grow first before we can help people. (which is a shit reason)

They also say shit like that all opression is based on class, and that intersectionality splits the working class and should be avoided. That privileges don't exist because you can't make individuals responsible for opression because it all comes from above.

This video explains what is happening here. It's their exact points.

They only ever go somewehere to hand out flyers, not for support. (one guy actually said we couldn't go to the foodbank beecause we would have to do work there and couldn't just hand out flyers)

I don't know if still have the energy to fight against this bullshit and I've read some more about intersectionality but, they've "indoctrinated" themselves about this shit for years and i am not making any progress. It makes me angry and tired.

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    4 years ago

    god this sounds like an org I was part of. Get out. These guys just like feeling smart and being in charge, Marxism is just a thing to lord over people for them. Also the leader of the org was later uncovered to be a fed so lolololol. There isn't any revolutionary potential in these orgs.

    • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      They also always talk about how they have the best takes and shit. They also collect a bunch of money for the org, as charity, but i told them i had no money.(which i really don't have)

      • Spinoza [any]
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        4 years ago

        i think i know the org you're talking about, and they tried to sell me their newsletter. i declined and then the guy came back five minutes later and gave me one for free anyway ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        we really really need an actual marxist party around here

        • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          When i first radicalized they were the only org in my geographic area, wondering now if they were the reason they were the only one.

          • Spinoza [any]
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            4 years ago

            i wouldn't be surprised. if your city is like mine (it might even be mine lol) you'll find a lot of the opposite - people who just do the work and aren't building a party or thinking about growth at all. i tend to hang around that crowd more, and am hoping summer or covid improvement will allow for some organizing

              • Spinoza [any]
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                4 years ago

                oh damn they really are that universally cringe, huh?

                  • Spinoza [any]
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                    4 years ago

                    they've covered for and denied at least one sexual assault within their org, are notoriously bad at working with unions and other groups, and from this post it looks like they've got the same class reductionist shit as your bunch

                    in my area i don't even know if any of their members are workers; they all look like students to me