for example all time greats are:

Intersectionality is opposed Marxism

Queer Theory is opposed to Marxism

Postmodernism is opposed to Marxism

Postcolonialism is opposed to Marxism

Feminism is opposed to Marxism

Identity politics exists because of Stalinism

it's all just shit like that, they seem to fundamentaly oppose any theory after Lenin.

I've tried arguing wih them for example about Intersectionslity, but they just say that it can't incorporate class because then they wouldn't need to use it anymore because it is the only thing that matters.

all reform is useless because it doesn't remove capitalism(black liberation, lgbt+ liberation?)

They now try to explain foucault and described him as anti-marxist.(turns out that's true)

"Queer Theorie says it is reactionary to be cis." "intersectionality leads to infighting about who is the most opressed"

They use postmodernism and idealism as some kind of slurs for ideas and all of the above is idealist, only the material ever matters. Idealism is petit-burgoise, post-modern nonsense

Also they are explicitly anti-pluralist in their organisation and don't want to do anything except growing by recruiting students. Like I can't even convince them to go help the foodbank.

Because these people(at hte foodbank) are apparently too pre-occupied with survuval to educate themselves about marxism. So any energy on them is wasted. They can't be useful as activists and we must grow first before we can help people. (which is a shit reason)

They also say shit like that all opression is based on class, and that intersectionality splits the working class and should be avoided. That privileges don't exist because you can't make individuals responsible for opression because it all comes from above.

This video explains what is happening here. It's their exact points.

They only ever go somewehere to hand out flyers, not for support. (one guy actually said we couldn't go to the foodbank beecause we would have to do work there and couldn't just hand out flyers)

I don't know if still have the energy to fight against this bullshit and I've read some more about intersectionality but, they've "indoctrinated" themselves about this shit for years and i am not making any progress. It makes me angry and tired.

  • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah, i mean busywork in this context means handing out fliers, making presentations and doing education. I don't really have a problem with any of that and like doing presentations, but that's not why I am a leftist and that's the problem for me. Also they want to do growth first to get and educated core of people before they do anything else, which i told them sounds likea bad idea.

    Thanks for explaining the theory and the problems of these to me. I really are having problems seeing which of their takes are wrong and which aren't. Also thanks for pointing out thst there are cultural differences ib leftist orgs, i actuall did not think that that could be a problem for me.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      When you say growth, roughly how big are they? Is it like 10 people? Or more like 100?

      But yeah, presentations, flyers etc.. Are they trots? They 100% sound like trots lol. You are right though that this kind of stuff is putting the cart before the horse.