the rachel drama/hack, the pronoun struggle sessions, and now this (most likely) false accusation against beatnik show that there's a lot of asshats with no morality willing to use anything against the site, and we need to get a lot smarter and stop falling for it

  • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Not that I want to dismiss very serious allegations as an op, but breaking up leftist communities is kinda their specialty, and I'm sure fedbois engage in this kind of activity quite often in the internet age.

    My question is why would an accuser come to chapo chat to voice these allegations on someone we don't have any real-world contact with? What is the incentive structure to taking their claims to chapo? As far as I'm aware, the accuser is not a long-term chapo user.

    What is more likely:

    A. One of our admins is a pedophile who had a real-life relationship with a very underage girl, told her about his internet persona, who then decided to post about his predatory behavior on the niche communist forum he helps run

    OR

    B. Some asshole targeted an admin with elaborately constructed allegations to take advantage of our community inherently taking accounts of abuse from women seriously.

    I'll reserve judgement for when more information has surfaced, but I can't imagine how a non-chapo-user would arrive at the decision to air out allegations here of all places.

    The accounts from that user are detailed and bizarre, and I have no way of validating those claims, so I can only make judgements on the circumstances surrounding the controversy.

    Has there been any more communication with the user making the allegations or was it just the initial thread?

    I'm very proud of how our mod team has handled this. We absolutely should not dismiss allegations of abuse outright, but we also should understand that our predisposition to believing accusations from women can be weaponized against the greater community. Feds and fash will almost certainly try to use any methods they can to disrupt left wing spaces, digital or otherwise.

    I think the most important thing to come from this is opsec, and how we all should be taking it more seriously. I have a series of suggestions on how we can take steps to protect the security of users of chapo chat, and I will be making an effortpost detailing some of these steps.

    • Kappapillar [comrade/them,undecided]
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      3 years ago

      The good news is that we've proven we can handle these attacks. I see no reason to change how seriously we take them if the way we responded to it has worked as well as can be expected.