• JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Dem foreign policy is more concerned about Russia and hegemony over Europe

    Republican foreign policy doent care about Europe ( Or rather, thinks they'll remain loyal vassal states come what may) and wanted to smash China like they smashed Japan in the 80s and sent their economy into a death spiral

    This is an attempt to de-escalate what 4 years of Repub foreign policy as an actual war with China US would probably lose and revolutions tend to happen in imperial power when they lose a war

    Did make me laugh how the Western Left fell for blatant CIA shit yet again though

    :this-is-fine:

    • Baron [any]
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      4 years ago

      The US gov has done studies and found that if as few as 9 of the 55k grid substations are taken down, the entire grid (most of which is largely 20 years past EOL) will go down for at least a year and a half. A different Defense Dept study found that without the grid as much as 90% of the population may die.

      But yeah push for war with an ICBM-equipped power sure.

      • jabrd [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I feel like 9 substations could be taken out over a weekend solely on accident by drunk drivers across the midwest. This country is such a fucking sham

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Hey have you got the sources for this? Would very useful to me.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      This is an attempt to de-escalate what 4 years of Repub foreign policy as an actual war with China US would probably lose and revolutions tend to happen in imperial power when they lose a war

      It's an effort to realign the foreign policy, as Clinton/Biden neoliberals still think Beijing can be "fixed" in the same way Afghanistan or Iran or Cuba policy could be "fixed" with a neoliberal market-based McKinsey approved solution.

      It's also - I suspect - a natural "if you're for it then I'm against it" dividing line between the parties. Even setting aside the cost-benefit of butting heads with world's newest superpower, the very fact that guys like Tom Cotton and Dan Crenshaw are getting on the white nationalist anti-China warpath gives Dems an incentive to choose a different lane. I can absolutely see the DNC adopting "Do you want us to get into a war with China?!?!" language, in the same way LBJ moved to call Goldwater a warmonger on the eve of Vietnam.

      Did make me laugh how the Western Left fell for blatant CIA shit yet again though

      American leftists are quick to adopt the same reflexive "Government Bad" narrative that American libertarians love. This is more an indication of the weakness of ML media penetration than an indictment of Western Leftism (which can only really work with the information they've got).

      I can't really blame people who grew up in the United States during the 80s/90s and watched us commit atrocity after atrocity, then conclude "All governments are like this". I also can't blame them for consuming news from ostensibly leftist media sources - like The Daily Show and The Pod Johns and the periodic Breadtube hot take - and taking the information at face value. At some point you need to trust someone, or you're just blackpilled into nihilism.

      Folks in the thick of the Chapo-verse need to understand that not everyone is listening to TrueAnon and taking history classes from Russ Baker. Praxis is pointing the contradictions out and flagging them as sus. Not yelling at left-liberals and uninformed comrades for being duped.

      If the CIA shit didn't work, the world wouldn't be such a clusterfuck.