Liberal idpol only serves the interests of the bourgeois members of the oppressive communities it professes to “help”.

You cannot be “for the gays” if you make the lives of the homeless worse. LGBTQ are significantly over-represented when it comes to experiencing homelessness and facing other associated dangers like sexual abuse, drug abuse etc.

This is a trend present in all aspects of society - social oppression of all kinds (sexual, gender, racial, religious) is worse for the economically downtrodden (which are the vast majority) and this obfuscation of the class dynamic only helps the already most well-off in those communities.

Class reductionism definitely exists and it’s wrong - social problems won’t disappear even if economic inequality does. But ending the class struggle will help 90% of the socially oppressed unlike liberal idpol which only helps the affluent (in any material way).

PS - As I was writing this, I had a realisation of what this looks like in practice. China is a socially conservative country - the media is more heteronormative, patriarchal etc. than the American one (which itself wasn’t anything great a decade ago). But over the past 20ish years, the real wages of people in China has gone up 4-5 times. I’m willing to bet that this has improved the lives of all kinds of minorities in China far more than American idpol has.

  • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Yes I'm aware of the church's return to a firm pillar of the state

    CEO positions as an indicator which

    CEOs hold much more power under capitalist society.

    Is just a horrible indicator and unironically liberal idpol.

    It's unironically how liberals define equality and even under this metric they fall short of Russia and China - which was my point

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      edit-2
      4 years ago

      Not even the most ridiculous of liberals would define equality as simply how many CEOs of each gender there are, looking at nothing more. It's the worst metric.

      It's not a question women's rights and especially LGBTQ+ rights are better overall in northern Europe and the US. It's not even close. In some metrics, like participation in science or high administrative positions, they're a little bit better for women in general although the pay gap is even worse. But for the life and expression of the millions of women and LGBTQ+ it's really horrible. Do you have any idea how common wife murder is in Russia? There was even a rather famous streamer who killed his wife on stream after abusing her video after video, but of course it didn't matter, because "light" domestic abuse was decriminalized recently, again in a country with a severe wife murder and abuse problem. Or maybe ask a Russian person here how terrible it is for LGBTQ+ people. Orrrrr look at the treatment of Pussy Riot, another very publicized case. It's ridiculous to try and pass off Russia today as a bastion of women's rights, or even at the same level as most other developed countries, it simply isn't and it really isn't a good look to promote it as such.

      Now if you are aware of the church's return, then why are you pretending they're "light years ahead"?