Canada's Parliament just voted to declare it a genocide. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/uighur-genocide-motion-vote-1.5922711 And I've been seeing a lot of conflicting takes on it on twitter and here. From what I can gather from researching the main issue is lack of indication of full on genocide there, but there also seems to be a fair amount of evidence that these camps do exist. I fail to see how that is "good" as people on this site appear to be indicating?

  • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    You can search the site and find some relatively comprehensive comments with info about it

    There’s a lot of sus stuff about the west ramping up these allegations that we’ve seen including the cia talking about using Uighurs and radicalizing them against China back in the 00s this ama attempted back before the narrative really took hold and even the libs on Reddit were side eyeing it when they discovered who the person was. If they did this today you can be sure the comments would be full of “oh it’s so sad how the Chinese just let this genocide happen” we westerners would never do something like that, let’s not talk about the Japanese, Ice, indigenous people or anything.”

    Here’s a comment from a bit back that is pretty ironic now considering it’s about Canada’s treatment of its indigenous

    There are more but I haven’t saved everything I could. There’ve been videos made by Uighurs showing them working with cpc people and other comments outlining how most of what we know in the west either comes from zenz or radio free Asia which is known to be an asset of the cia.

    Ultimately like the other comment said it’s gonna be hard to cut through all the propaganda here to get at the absolute truth but knowing what we know about capital and how often they’ve lied to manufacture consent for their ends (wmds, that the ussr planned to attack the west in the 20th century and then the cia released a paper saying that that was lie and just wanted to ramp up the military, etc) I’m not inclined to take what their propaganda arms have to say about their new public enemy #1 at face value

    • interwebfamous [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Definitely agree as a Canadian that if its more of a "cultural" genocide taking place, then Canada is absolutely guilty of the same crimes through the residential school system.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        There's an easy way to see if someone has a worthwhile opinion on the subject, or if they're just purely pushing propaganda. What do they think of the genocides carried out by the imperial core? If they're willing to call keeping perhaps a million people in custody genocide, are they willing to call actually killing millions of people genocide (as the U.S. did with indiscriminate bombing in Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq)? If they're calling for some sort of action to be taken against China, what sort of remedial action are they calling for against countries like the U.S., Canada, Australia, etc.?