Usually in relation to Uighur camps, the argument is "since you're in America you can't change whether they're concentration camps or education facilities, so you should just concentrate on the concentration camps within your own borders instead."

Like, motherfucker, I can have an opinion on the actions in another country and still work on changing things I can change.

I guess my question is, is this concentrate on what you can change part of some theory or strategy I haven't read or is it just bad and lazy?

In particular for China it's essentially conceding to the people who thinks there are millions of Uighurs being murdered, rather than attempt to engage and show that there is no evidence of that, and just what abouting.

  • Kerenskyeet [any]
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    4 years ago

    Why stop at xinjiang? Why not talk about Kashmir? Why not Myanmar? The narrative has nothing to do with the welfare of the Uyghurs & everything to do with Western propaganda strategy. Rather than concern yourself with the injustices of the nation-states we are stuck living under, which is really just one in a continuum of oppression that is endemic to this social and historical context we are in, the easily manipulated fall into the state’s psychological trap of constantly projecting evil outwards onto whichever enemy they need to vilify. This is a tale as old as time, it has been used to divide people regionally and internationally since what, the beginning of organized society likely?

    The projection outwards is the true laziness. Concerning yourself with the political context that your own being exists is, and committing yourself dutifully to learning how you can affect change individually and in cooperation with others is the true commitment. Until there is a workers state here in the US, or maybe one day in Europe, we as so-called socialists will never be able to affect change on global scale as would be necessary to influence something like what may be happening in xinjiang or elsewhere. Western socialists and communists have tried to play that game from ww2 thru the Cold War, and look what it got us. Projecting outwards is self-defeating & only serves our own oppressors.

    • shitstorm [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Why stop at xinjiang? Why not talk about Kashmir? Why not Myanmar? The narrative has nothing to do with the welfare of the Uyghurs & everything to do with Western propaganda strategy.

      This is how I need to start phrasing this to lib friends. Every single week pretty much there's political protests or systematic repression or regional instability in some country. The State Dept could spend all day listing the world's atrocities, but they don't obviously. Why isn't the admin talking about Chilean protests? Or Indian protests? Biden right now is backing the undemocratic leader of Haiti when the whole country is in protest over him being an American puppet, that's not even news.

      Every single time the US State Dept, DoD, or any sort of leadership is mentioning another country's problems, it is always targetted at America's enemies. And most of these international news reporters take these government officials at their word and print their statements verbatim without any criticism. So you should always, always be critical of whatever narrative the US government is saying about another country, especially if it's China.