Pretty cringe my dude

  • sayssanford [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Westerners did not want to fight against Nazis, this makes Stalin's economic support to Nazis and explicit deals in carving up Europe OK. Flawless logic. Mao, the guy who wanted all the classes to collaborate with each other in building a new China, totally a socialist thing to do, is not an opportunist. Lol

    • camaron28 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yes, trade with the only countries willing to trade with you is bad, actually. If that surprises you wait until you hear about the economic support by absolutely everyone else to the nazis.

      Lmao at "carving out Europe". If you want a nazi Poland you can just say so.

      Thank god randomchapouser27362717 is here not just to criticize past leaders, oh no, but to talk about how they SUCKED, were terrible and actually the people who supported them were wrong too.

      • sayssanford [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Economic relations with a country whose party in power had the open goal of destroying Bolshevism is alright, not to mention the economic relation involved materials critical to the German war machine. Amazing logic. Also the USSR had trade relations with UK and USA, their initial five year plans involved importing American machinery and trained engineers who were critical in their industrialization.

        Lmao at “carving out Europe”. If you want a nazi Poland you can just say so.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Axis_talks

        Thank god camaron28 is here to defend an idiotic moron who caused immense damage to the communist movement.

        • Catiline [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Everyone in Eastern Europe would have gotten exterminated by the Wehrmacht if people like you were in charge of the Soviet Union lol.

          • sayssanford [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            I don't know, I couldve done better than the 40 million dead by not trading with the Nazis, focusing on building defences rather than trusting Nazis till the last moment, and actually listening to my generals.

            • Catiline [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I. You don't at least feign friendly relations with the Germans to buy time for rebuilding the Soviet military.

              II. As a result, Hitler decides you're the more immediate threat compared to the Allies and invade you immediately after Poland.

              III. France and Britain do nothing but watch with relish and likely implicitly support it.

              IV. You're likely invaded by Japan as well, since the dire resource situation that would historically necessitate their decision to bomb Pearl Harbor is two years away so their forces are unoccupied for awhile.

              V. Without those two additional years of preparation for the Red Army, you lose.

              VI. Congratulations, everyone in Eastern Europe (200+ million people) is enslaved or killed.