• hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Guess we better get rid of all these emojis:

    :amerikkka: :kanada: :UK-cool: :xi-plz:

    Again, we're going to lose if we exile people who've done lots of good things over small-fry shitty takes like this. Do you want to win, or do you want to cancel people on Twitter?

    • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      I'm just some asshole. Me saying "michael moore sucks" does immeasurably less harm to the left than michael moore telling millions of his fans that it would be funny if they died. Why aren't you asking the actually influential people to stop damaging the left?

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Why aren’t you asking the actually influential people to stop damaging the left?

        You mean like this:

        Michael Moore has plenty of good takes, but this is a fucking awful one.

        He's wrong on this, but you have a bad approach, too.

        • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
          hexagon
          ·
          4 years ago

          Michael Moore is a rich lib shitheel who sometimes has good takes. I don't owe him respect any more than I do Jimmy Dore, nor does the left as a whole.

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            The point is that an approach of dismissing someone who's more right than most over one shitty take is a fast track to getting nothing done.

            Everyone has a shit take now and then, and everyone indulges in sloppy rhetoric like "fuck this whole country" on occasion.

            • chance [they/them,none/use name]
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              edit-2
              4 years ago

              The consequences of making one's politics the main, or only, aspect of one's personality. Self-righteousness takes precedence over putting those politics into effect. /armchair

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Similarly, comments like Moore's may not be intended 100% literally. And just as we're not laughing at that, someone wandering in here probably wouldn't laugh at "Death to America."

        All of this is why -- although "Texas shouldn't get vaccines" is a bad look -- we shouldn't be writing off otherwise decent people over it. There's enough leftist infighting over important stuff.