Eh. The real election was the primaries. In the general election, I can’t fault people in swing states for voting against trump. Everyone else should have protested or voted green imo.
I still don't think this is a fair comparison and it's based on the deliberate ignorance of what "harm reduction" means. The worst things Biden has done are things Trump would have done anyways. This is literally the same point Trump was at with Iran. Then Biden did some good, like delisting the Houthis, cutting operational support for Saudi bombing raids...
No one was saying Biden was perfect, but no one's presented any evidence yet that he's worse than Trump.
All true but the point of any political action should be in service to an ideological goal or endpoint. Leftists voting for Biden as a harm reduction candidate only further entrenches liberal political power. It does nothing to build leftist power.
Biden winning entrenches Liberal political power. Trump winning entrenches Liberal political power, but with slightly worse policies and more people killed.
I agree. My point is at some point harm reduction has to be replaced by an actual political project. There's a historical precedent for an organized base punishing a party by not voting for a candidate, and the party moving in the base's direction. Young Republicans did just that in 1962 in California.
The ideological change was already underway in the Republican Party, but the Young Republicans organized and showed a glimpse of the future. Look at r/politics comments - it's full of Dem bashing. Apathy is kicking in already.
The moment is ripe for an organized stand of some kind against the corporate Dems. Really wish Sanders had done so. It might have meant Trump again, but it would also force the party to actually face repercussions for moving right.
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where did that bring them? back to :back-to-me-shining:
Eh. The real election was the primaries. In the general election, I can’t fault people in swing states for voting against trump. Everyone else should have protested or voted green imo.
The real election was the friends we made along the way
I still don't think this is a fair comparison and it's based on the deliberate ignorance of what "harm reduction" means. The worst things Biden has done are things Trump would have done anyways. This is literally the same point Trump was at with Iran. Then Biden did some good, like delisting the Houthis, cutting operational support for Saudi bombing raids...
No one was saying Biden was perfect, but no one's presented any evidence yet that he's worse than Trump.
All true but the point of any political action should be in service to an ideological goal or endpoint. Leftists voting for Biden as a harm reduction candidate only further entrenches liberal political power. It does nothing to build leftist power.
Biden winning entrenches Liberal political power. Trump winning entrenches Liberal political power, but with slightly worse policies and more people killed.
I agree. My point is at some point harm reduction has to be replaced by an actual political project. There's a historical precedent for an organized base punishing a party by not voting for a candidate, and the party moving in the base's direction. Young Republicans did just that in 1962 in California.
The ideological change was already underway in the Republican Party, but the Young Republicans organized and showed a glimpse of the future. Look at r/politics comments - it's full of Dem bashing. Apathy is kicking in already. The moment is ripe for an organized stand of some kind against the corporate Dems. Really wish Sanders had done so. It might have meant Trump again, but it would also force the party to actually face repercussions for moving right.
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I am once again asking you to read posts before responding.
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