• heqt1c [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    MeToo was never a feminist movement, it was all to lay the pretense for shit like this.

    You don't liberate women by getting justice for bourgeoise actresses who make millions, you do it by giving them a fucking union to sue the shit out of her boss if he lays a hand on her.

    • htz [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      This kind of shits all over the fact that many non-famous women have also shared stories, and that high profile cases are conducive to getting people who might feel otherwise unable to speak a chance to do so. Yes, the latter statement is true, but as a woman that works in a corporate work environment I can absolutely say MeToo has changed things for the better, even if there's still a lot more that can and should be done.

        • htz [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          My office has made numerous changes in the wake of the movement to help women feel more comfortable. I know of other people in my field (which is male dominated) who have had similar experiences in their offices as well.

          Once again, I'm not saying it was some magical fix-all, and that more shouldn't be done and we've solved sexism with a hashtag, I'm saying that there were tangible benefits to women. Not all women, but some women.

          And furthermore, even if the literal only positive outcome of this was Harvey Weinstein being thrown in jail, it's objectively good. Fuck people who prey on women, I don't care if they're "actresses who make millions" (as someone above said), they're human beings and don't deserved to be sexually harassed and abused.

          Sinema being a ghoulish piece of garbage doesn't invalidate anything.

          • thrown_away_dev [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            My office has made numerous changes in the wake of the movement to help women feel more comfortable.

            Like what? An open office plan so that everyone can watch the sexual harassment as it goes down? An incrementing counter labeled "x days without an office rape"? Ooh! Maybe a pizza party for every month where no sexual harassment complaint is made to HR?

            Does it make women just feel better about their exploitation or does it actually improve material conditions?

            • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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              3 years ago

              Bad take imo

              Any steps taken to recognise sexual harassment in the workplace are good steps. Anything is better than "sure it happens but that's just how it is".

              Sure there's still a long way to go and we need to convince people that it's bad when Dems do it but it's way less accepted now and we've shown people that it is possible for harassers to suffer consequences.

              • thrown_away_dev [comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                Adding hamfisted training videos that only depict the most egregious behaviors and perpetuate harmful stereotypes don't help when they become a point of derision and the butt of jokes around the office. Doing just anything isn't helping so we really should be specific about what changes are made and what outcomes are measured. Pizza parties aren't going to fix pay parity.