I am up on my traditional lands that my family can recall inhabiting long before any colonizers showed up. I know the exact spot where our family has been fishing literally since time immemorial and I don't do it for sport?
All your responses on this thread I just came across seem really tone-deaf and pretty close to peak 'making up a guy online to be mad at' given how little you had to go off of from my comment.
Colonizers tried to get us to stop fishing and colonizers will be the reason global fish stocks and environments disappear. Meanwhile, I run fish-management and hatchery programs and only take a few dozen out of the water every year, mostly to feed my family and friends.
Most people are not minority native groups living on traditional lands. I hope that's understandable that when I reference sport fishing by the guy in the video I'm not talking about an Inuit tribe.
Well good for that guy and for you missing the point of my post, just riffing on the BBQ classic.
You also don't say anything about who you are directing the comment to when talking to me, I don't know anything about the clip other than the quote he said in it, so it reads like a direct response to me, because that's all you're framing it as.
You need to be better at providing context and ramping up discussion in a personable way, rather than sounding so insufferable so quickly.
Also, inuit don't have tribes my dude.
I think i recall you from the old sub, for exactly this same reason.
"Most people are not minority native groups living on traditional lands. I hope that’s understandable ... " lol you're such a dweeb, thanks for giving the impolite dumdum explanation to an indigenous person you dragged into your struggle session for no reason.
I did not use this name on the old sub, you may just be arguing unnecessarily with multiple people.
I didn't say I remember your name, I am saying I think I recall your stilted 'well ackshually statistically most people aren't subsistence hunters, sweaty' discussion style where I am used as a jump-off for first world veganism and shaming in a topic that was never really about the extremes suddenly being argued against.
The context for this thread is some guy out ice fishing. I didn't know he was sport fishing on the ice. The context for my post is me just talking about fishing in general, then you jumping off on a thing I was not directly referencing.
If you made your own comment it makes sense, otherwise, if you frame your response as one directed at me without clarification, it is no surprise I feel like it's directed at me.
To be clear, I did not use you or your culture as a jump-off point for first world veganism. I could not know your culture, you just said "I just wanna fish!"
If anything is sweaty, it's making an issue out of an identity or cultural attack where there was none.
I think the "most people aren't in a survival situation where they need to hunt" is a very common argument against hunting, it's the one I see brought up most often, so you probably just run into a lot because you actually are in a survival situation.
Next time I'll just comment it separately, had no intent to attack you as an individual.
If anything is sweaty, it’s making an issue out of an identity or cultural attack where there was none.
I am not making this about identity or 'cultural attack', I was just filling in context as a response to your poorly framed jump-off in direct response to what I said. I am just calling you an unconvincing dweeb poster, not some kind of racist.
And yes, next time you should just comment by yourself, or provide more context if you care to have more people engage in whatever line of discussion you wanna start and it differs from the person posting memes in response to a short clip that isnt expressly discussing what you want to talk about..
How did you even get that out of this? That's like someone complaining about domestic child abuse and replying, "ah but I really don't that compares to child slavery in India."
It's really not like that at all. The cruelty of the sport really doesn't go away if it's helping marginalized groups, and I think if the cruelty was really the prime motivator here, there would be some kind of an acknowledgement that it's good not to fuck with natives right now, but that ultimately you'd like, force veganism on them or whatever, once the conditions become non-abusive. But just flatly supporting native fisheries means the resource depletion rate seems like it's part of the equation there.
Looks like you do mention that somewhere down in these threads, so cool. But that's the context there.
Wtf?
I am up on my traditional lands that my family can recall inhabiting long before any colonizers showed up. I know the exact spot where our family has been fishing literally since time immemorial and I don't do it for sport?
All your responses on this thread I just came across seem really tone-deaf and pretty close to peak 'making up a guy online to be mad at' given how little you had to go off of from my comment.
Colonizers tried to get us to stop fishing and colonizers will be the reason global fish stocks and environments disappear. Meanwhile, I run fish-management and hatchery programs and only take a few dozen out of the water every year, mostly to feed my family and friends.
Go off king, but find some way to do it better.
Most people are not minority native groups living on traditional lands. I hope that's understandable that when I reference sport fishing by the guy in the video I'm not talking about an Inuit tribe.
Well good for that guy and for you missing the point of my post, just riffing on the BBQ classic.
You also don't say anything about who you are directing the comment to when talking to me, I don't know anything about the clip other than the quote he said in it, so it reads like a direct response to me, because that's all you're framing it as.
You need to be better at providing context and ramping up discussion in a personable way, rather than sounding so insufferable so quickly.
Also, inuit don't have tribes my dude.
I think i recall you from the old sub, for exactly this same reason.
"Most people are not minority native groups living on traditional lands. I hope that’s understandable ... " lol you're such a dweeb, thanks for giving the impolite dumdum explanation to an indigenous person you dragged into your struggle session for no reason.
The context, hopefully, is at the top of your webpage given the thread we are in.
It was not meant as an attack on you are your culture, as I can't possibly know you or those things.
I did not use this name on the old sub, you may just be arguing unnecessarily with multiple people.
I didn't say I remember your name, I am saying I think I recall your stilted 'well ackshually statistically most people aren't subsistence hunters, sweaty' discussion style where I am used as a jump-off for first world veganism and shaming in a topic that was never really about the extremes suddenly being argued against.
The context for this thread is some guy out ice fishing. I didn't know he was sport fishing on the ice. The context for my post is me just talking about fishing in general, then you jumping off on a thing I was not directly referencing.
If you made your own comment it makes sense, otherwise, if you frame your response as one directed at me without clarification, it is no surprise I feel like it's directed at me.
To be clear, I did not use you or your culture as a jump-off point for first world veganism. I could not know your culture, you just said "I just wanna fish!"
If anything is sweaty, it's making an issue out of an identity or cultural attack where there was none.
I think the "most people aren't in a survival situation where they need to hunt" is a very common argument against hunting, it's the one I see brought up most often, so you probably just run into a lot because you actually are in a survival situation.
Next time I'll just comment it separately, had no intent to attack you as an individual.
I am not making this about identity or 'cultural attack', I was just filling in context as a response to your poorly framed jump-off in direct response to what I said. I am just calling you an unconvincing dweeb poster, not some kind of racist.
And yes, next time you should just comment by yourself, or provide more context if you care to have more people engage in whatever line of discussion you wanna start and it differs from the person posting memes in response to a short clip that isnt expressly discussing what you want to talk about..
I really don't think even random white people throwing a pole in the water holds a candle to businesses blasting the fuck out of fish stocks.
How did you even get that out of this? That's like someone complaining about domestic child abuse and replying, "ah but I really don't that compares to child slavery in India."
It's really not like that at all. The cruelty of the sport really doesn't go away if it's helping marginalized groups, and I think if the cruelty was really the prime motivator here, there would be some kind of an acknowledgement that it's good not to fuck with natives right now, but that ultimately you'd like, force veganism on them or whatever, once the conditions become non-abusive. But just flatly supporting native fisheries means the resource depletion rate seems like it's part of the equation there.
Looks like you do mention that somewhere down in these threads, so cool. But that's the context there.
Most people don't fish.
A lot of people demand their fish be caught by someone else.