The least you can do is look at them for an hour or two of your life

  • headr00m [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Looked at it for an hour.

    Nothing in that portion was particularly surprising given what I knew about factory farms.

    I wonder if there will ever be a movement to change livestock practices on the pragmatic grounds of breeding plagues.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I don't eat it anymore but fuck, can we just get rid of meat products please? At least the horrid mass-produced abuse bourne shit? This shit hurts my everything.

    • PenisCunt [undecided]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I wish we could just get rid of the worst aspects of this, but growing animals really quickly and killing them when they're this young is the only way to realistically meet demand. And unfortunately grass fed or "free range" animals use more land and resources. If hypoethically we could make the process 10% less cruel, but it would require even more subsidies, I'm not sure I'd be for that either.

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Just don't meet demand then. Fuck meat and the meat industry. If you can't make a thing without insane amounts of cruelty and unsustainable environmental damage then we shouldn't get to have it.

  • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Watched it. I wonder if there's some overlap between the people who work in these farms and prisons or ICE detention camps.

    • PenisCunt [undecided]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      The ones who deliberately beat pigs or throw chickens around for fun, yeah definitely. But I've read about the experience of some other slaughterhouse workers, in general they are poorer and have no other decent job options in their shitty small town. The main requirement is mentally detaching yourself from reality, which some people can do temporarily, but most of of them get some ptsd, some become alcoholics, or more violent, etc, so it's not as black and white as someone who wanted to be a cop their whole life. Maybe the worst animal abusers in this video are coping in the most fucked up way possible, I'm not a psychologist.

      • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I do wonder how we could even go about dismantling the industry as a whole. It's certainly not feasible under standard capitalism, and seeing how it's a global phenomenon meat and other animal products will just get pulled from another place, not to mention the loss of jobs caused by forcible closure of such industriues.

        The most depressing part is that these Australian farms and slaughterhouses, horrific as they appear, are comparatively some of the nicest and most humane compared to the rest of the world, especially the global south or in countries with fewer restrictions. The bar is just that low. A lot like climate disaster, seeing how the sausage is made really makes the entire experience feel hopeless and powerless, seeing as almost everything contributes, directly or otherwise, to it.

        • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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          4 years ago

          This is one of the undersold elements of cutting out animal products - even if you don't believe you're making a difference (individual action or whatever), it really does make you feel better about your place in the world. You're never going to get it perfect but exercising the choice can be liberating. Same with being a politically active communist; it feels good to feel like you're doing something and that's a strategic asset.