The racism, nonce apologia, and airing out of Meghan's battle with mental health are pretty shitty things for anyone having to live with.
That said, she has enough money and connections to divest herself of that life and find her own retreat.
To me, this story and the behavior of the crown confirms they assassinated Diana.
Diana sucks tho.
She used her platform to bring attention to some humanitarian causes. Probably a little better than your average Brit, or is there some nefarious history I'm missing?
I’ve noticed the latest edgy Zoomer take is to say that Diana sucked. Yes, every royal sucks and the monarchy should be abolished, that isn’t in question. But Diana’s advocacy on behalf of HIV/AIDS patients truly was commendable. People are shades of gray and all that
-Soulja
That edgy groupthink contrarianism is such a turn off. All it does is put up my guard from assuming people are well-intentioned or know what they're talking about.
This is incorrect. Capitalist charities and celebrities are very good at taking credit for the work of millions of activists and organizers who are the ones actually getting things done after a lot of struggle and bloodshed. If you really think Diana's advocacy or rather her publicized photo shoots accomplished anything of value then you are simply buying into the royal marketing and PR.
Your takes are shrouded in darkness. Bringing attention to a cause and raising awareness and gobs of cash goes a long way, too.
No, it didn't achieve anything. The only thing the royal PR brought attention to is how great she was. There is no darkness in my mind, the only unfortunate thing about the death of any royal is that they didn't die at the hands of heroes like Khudiram.
Her celebrity definitely played a role, but you can't argue with raising hundreds of millions (if not billions) towards humanitarian efforts. Certainly nobler than being a curmudgeon on the internet.
I disagree, even a child who has yet to even learn to walk has already accomplished much more for humanity than any royal.
And the very concept of being a royal and "raising money" to help people is so incredibly funny that I am almost at a loss of words to explain it properly. See these people are parasites, their entire station in life, fame and wealth is built upon the oppression of billions of people and the theft of their labor all over the world. If they really wanted to help then why would one of the richest and most powerful dynasties in the world need to raise money? They could just spend all their ill gotten wealth, if they really wanted that pat in the back.
More importantly, like with any charities run by capitalists, no matter how much money they launder into these "humanitarian" causes for PR, it doesn't come close to repairing the damage they cause by accumulating and hoarding that wealth in the first place. The wealth of the british monarchy is stolen from not just the british working class but from people all around the world and from the genocide of millions, including my ancestors. My people had to be under the heels of these bloodsuckers for 200 years, and now I am being told that a few millions they threw away into charity to launder their image should make me celebrate them? Absurd.
Sorry, I am perhaps being a a little too harsh, I understand a lot of you are young ones who are getting into politics, which is why I am trying to be as patient as I can, but please don't defend the royals. No communist will want solidarity with western leftists who defend the royals.
Thank God we have you here to provide us with the objective truth of the universe. No shit the royals are fucking scum, the whole thing is a disgrace. But Diana treating HIV/AIDS patients like human beings and showing compassion toward them in a very public way influenced the tens of millions of Britbongs and others around the world who worshipped her. Even if they worshipped her for extremely stupid reasons she still used some of the absurd privilege she had to make a positive impact on the lives of people with HIV/AIDS. I wasn’t even necessarily referring to the large amount of money she raised toward that cause, I know none of the royals deserve a cent of that money and they owe billions of dollars to many around the world in backpay. But she still did a good thing with that and you aren’t going to win anyone over in the real world with such a holier than thou attitude.
-Soulja
Maybe not in the west, but I have never in my whole life, that I have spent in academia and in organizing, ever met anyone who is sympathetic to the monarchy. I understand that to the westerners, who grow up consuming the sort of media that present the royals as saints and activists, any attack on the good royals might feel a little offensive, and for this reason I should have perhaps been less harsh in my pronouncement. I am sorry for that, but I want you to take a second and try to understand that when you say things like "she still did a good thing", it is still a very naive thing to say, it's the same as claiming billionaires with charities, which by the way are all of them, are doing good things.
I hate the royals, but if you think the royals and billionaires are fundamentally incapable of doing a single good thing then I don’t know what to tell you. Harry could literally blow up Westminster when they go back home to visit for Easter and take all of em out and you’d be here saying it still wasn’t good
-Soulja
No, the royals are not billionaires, they are far worse. There is not a single billionaire on the face of the earth right now whose wealth is the result of as much suffering and death as the british monarchy.
Exactly, that's my point, there is absolutely nothing someone from the royal family can do for them to be considered "good". Any attempt at sanitizing their image from inbred incompetent idiots to something positive is simply buying into the royal PR and marketing machine and letting their narrative win. There is no better rallying cry to unite the working class of the world than by attacking the british monarchy and the members of this institution.
wtf did I click on this thread, the liberalism is nauseating
Yeah. A good thing is a good thing, and it's good that good things are done. Like, I have done two good things in my life, doesn't make up for the three fucked up things I've put others through.
But those two things were pretty good. And that's despite them being associated with me.
I wish I was a zoomer :angery:
you're an honorary zoomer now
:soviet-bashful:
As a representative of the zoomer vanguard, I'll certify the honoury zoomer status. (Though I'm as old as you can get while still being a zoomer, if that makes any sense)
Yeah, there’s been some sanitization of her lately. She was a master of self promotion. She wasn’t a commoner, but pretended to be one. Like, she did some good things sure, but like she pushed her step mother down the stairs. She held grudges and could be very cruel behind closed doors: everything was about her public persona and getting people to like her. Like there’s plenty more. But on AIDS she really did good work.
Being the least evil royal is a dubious honor, like being recognized as "best dressed pedophile" or "most eloquent war criminal".
Historically these titles were also given to royals
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Still the least bad member of the British Royalty since Queen Boudica
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