My daughter (16F) has refused to eat dog meat for about a year. Although we all enjoy a nice dog steak, me, my husband and her brother (14M) have tried to be as supportive as possible.
We aren't a family that eats dog meat daily, so it wasn't that hard for me to accommodate her. When I do cook dog meat, I also make something else for her and keep the side dishes common for all. She does have some seperate dishes, but most are common and I clean it if I have to cook for her.
Few months into refusing to eat dog meat, she tried to convince us to stop eating it too and would get increasingly angry when we said no. Me and husband shut that behaviour down hard and told her that she can follow whatever diet she wanted, but she cannot expect others to. She sulked for a while, but stopped doing that.
Last weekend, I cooked the family a big pot of chilli (a small dog-free one and a large one made from one of our Labradors, Cooper), so that I can refrigerate it and use for the next week. Next day, I found the fridge empty of both the chilli and turns out, my daughter decided that we were are being too callous about dog meat. She felt the smell was "too much" when she opened the fridge door and that she can't anything from the fridge after that without gagging or puking. She told me that I need to throw out all the dog-free food in the fridge and restock them.
Me and my husband were livid. Wasting food is never okay with us and that was a lot of food. I told her I am going to continue using the products in the fridge and she can either eat it or not, but I am not wasting food. That whole week she kept making faces at dinner while she ate.
As a punishment, I gave her the recipe and told her she needs to cook Max (another one of our Labradors) next weekend. She yelled and begged, but I stood firm. In the end, she did it.
When the cooking was finished, I told her that wasting food is never okay in this house and pointed out that instead of x amount of dog meat being used, 2x amount of dog meat (Since this seems to be confusing. I meant as in x amount in the pot she wasted + x amount in the new one. I didn't purposefully make her put more than what was used previously) was used because she threw the food away.
Now, she started crying and yelling at me about how awful and disgusting I was because I not only paid someone to kill Max (which my daughter is very much against), I also forced her to cook him and now I am also telling her that it was her fault.
She is really upset about this. So, I am wondering if I went too far. Should I have picked a different punishment? My husband and brother definitely think what I did was right while my parents thinks I was in the wrong.
I thought I will put it to a vote. AITA?
I didn't know that you were trans, but my point still stands. Pick a thing that the shelter would exclude people for, it doesn't matter what it is.
My argument isn't about vegans being excluded, it's about the church deciding not to serve vegan food.
There is no choice in being trans, the skin color you were born with, and other things. That is what I am pointing out and its frustrating I need to do that. Being vegan is a situational choice for a person based on money and opportunity.
I didn't say that. My argument is centered on the institution that is providing a service to disadvantaged people, which I clarified in an edit that I'm sure you didn't see because I made it just a moment before you replied.
I was comparing your argument "I'll just go down to the church and tell them to stop serving food until it's all vegan" to a similar bad argument I hear frequently "activists shut down a women's shelter because it didn't accept trans women, therefore the activists hate women"
Here you are again comparing food choices to me being trans. Can you just fucking stop doing that?
organization doing bad thing and good thing together "Organization should stop doing bad thing" "What? You want them to stop doing good thing until you get your way?"
It has nothing to do with you being trans, again I had no idea you were trans. I'm sorry that I worded it in that way in the first place.
Yes you can choose to stop being vegan and you cannot choose to stop being trans, that said it is also not okay to diminish veganism to "food choices".
You are confusing my response to him as something that is in my main argument which its not.
Being vegan to me is a food choice and will never stop being one that is done out of convenience. That is my argument if you want me to speak it plainly.
Well in that case you plainly don't understand what veganism is, and it really isn't up for debate because that just isn't what the word means.
If by "done out of convenience" you mean "done when it's a choice you have" then I agree, but if you look at the poorest cultures on earth you see that they generally don't eat much meat because meat and dairy and eggs are the luxury, not vegan food.
On an individual level eating meat is almost always a choice, and when it is not a choice no vegan on this site at least is going to fault you for it.
On an institutional level eating meat is always a choice and that is why in this case we are targeting the system that is forcing non-vegan foods on people, not the people it is being forced on, unwillingly or otherwise.
Then we are in agreement! This is good we are no longer talking past each other. I know convenience is not a good word and I can admit that eating meat is luxury in some areas, but keeping chickens for eggs is really cheap for someone like my mom who did and still does. She uses the eggs to supplement her diet. Its done by a lot of families when I grew up who lived on church food.
Oh wow, just came across this. I'm sorry sister.
it’s about institutional choices on who/what cause they’re helping, how far they’re willing to go to help, not about you or individuals, and it is sadly common that charities exclude from their services/do not have a good approach beyond 1 axis, see voluntourism or the salvation army