I still don't see at all how that makes this struggle session any different in any meaningful way. I don't eat any meat, but I'm not vegan because I don't think that "eating meat is bad" is a universal moral truth.
to be a vegan you have to think something AND do something to totality
to be an anti-imperialist you have to just think something, maybe halfassedly do something
that's why veganism inherently is more limiting and less popular even among leftists, and probably even on this site.
If you want, you can take a poll, and I'll quote your OP that triggered this debate:
This is the same reason people throw shitfits about China, totalitarianism, market socialism, or anything else.
based on that:
"what % of chapos have a favorable view of China, and/or think it's severely mistreated by western media"
and
"what % of chapos are vegan"
to be an anti-imperialist you have to just think something
I don't anyone except you would sign onto a notion of anti-imperialism that doesn't involve "doing something", it might be more ill-defined than veganism, but it's not like there aren't disagreements between vegans about whats allowed (wool? honey? bee-pollinated fruit?).
My guess is the former far outpaces the latter
Different size camps don't a different struggle session make.
I never said that. I'm not vegan. I support eating less meat though, and if someone can make veganism work for them that's good
I still don't see at all how that makes this struggle session any different in any meaningful way. I don't eat any meat, but I'm not vegan because I don't think that "eating meat is bad" is a universal moral truth.
If I thought that, I'd be a vegan.
Again:
to be a vegan you have to think something AND do something to totality
to be an anti-imperialist you have to just think something, maybe halfassedly do something
that's why veganism inherently is more limiting and less popular even among leftists, and probably even on this site.
If you want, you can take a poll, and I'll quote your OP that triggered this debate:
based on that:
"what % of chapos have a favorable view of China, and/or think it's severely mistreated by western media"
and
"what % of chapos are vegan"
My guess is the former far outpaces the latter
I don't anyone except you would sign onto a notion of anti-imperialism that doesn't involve "doing something", it might be more ill-defined than veganism, but it's not like there aren't disagreements between vegans about whats allowed (wool? honey? bee-pollinated fruit?).
Different size camps don't a different struggle session make.
if it's more ill-defined, then it's easier to be one. That's the entire point.
It's easier for me to not eat meat (which is something I already do for reasons of convenience) that it is for me to think something I don't think.