“There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism, after all.”

:capitalist-laugh: .

  • SpeedAnimal [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Modern industrial farming is exactly like hunter gatherer tribes. Human society can never progress past that point and consider moral or ethical points that go beyond the level of someone bashing a rock over someone elses head to steal someone elses dead elk.

      • SpeedAnimal [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        "It's racism to suggest moral and ethical considerations might change as human society changes and our understanding of the world changes with it"

        • DeepPoliSci [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          You are correct. Cultures which still hunt are just "ooga booga me smash rock." They are incapable of developing a morality or philosophy which incorporates their relationship to prey.

            • DeepPoliSci [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              I said that people still hunt in a cooperative way with nature, and I was met with:

              Oh, so you think you're a wolf

              Human society can never progress past that point and consider moral or ethical points that go beyond the level of someone bashing a rock over someone elses head to steal someone elses dead elk.

              These were both incredibly racist & chauvinistic.

              an Indian vegetarian says that Americans haven’t progressed to a more enlightened position towards their food

              No one said this to me, but I would agree if someone did say this.

          • SpeedAnimal [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            They are incapable of developing a morality or philosophy which incorporates their relationship to prey.

            And one of those might be vegetarianism or veganism, out of a respect in recognising the sentience of other animals and seeking to reduce their harm, you fucking moron.

              • SpeedAnimal [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                The person who thinks veganism and vegetarianism is incapable of being adapted, understood, developed or accepted by indigenous cultures because they're all exclusively so tied up with animal consumption that it would be apparently impossible to suggest it, and that suggesting otherwise is somehow a rejection of darwinism.

                • DeepPoliSci [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  The person who thinks veganism and vegetarianism is incapable of being adapted, understood, developed or accepted by indigenous cultures

                  Cool, go talk to that person.

                  I don't care whether your opinions on hunting or husbandry are adopted by any culture, and I have said nothing about that.