Most people ask what to do about rapists, current or future, and then the anarchists' suitcase full of jellybeans explodes all over the floor as they try to describe communal law officers without calling them police.
I'm not sure which is more lib: thinking that the police have done anything significant to end rape, or thinking that semantics is an epic gotcha moment.
That's not semantics, it's describing literally what structures will exist to help people in need and anarchists do the "ho ho ho, dear lib, I'll never taint myself with a material description of the system I hope to replace." Literally worthless rhetoric.
Just fuckin' describe the system you want to replace the current with to people. It's all I'm asking. Arrogant "dunks" do literally nothing for anyone.
Meanwhile complaining about "the anarchists" using such horrid terminology as "abolish the police" on a bear themed podcast site in the middle of the night is definitely doing everything for everyone. :shrug-outta-hecks:
No, but I literally want to abolish the state lol. Normal people do tend to think it sounds insane, because they have been taught to conflate abstract quantities like education and security with specific capitalist institutions. You gotta point out the distinction to them or they will be insanely confused.
yeah, i guess you kinda have to answer silent but obvious questions the twitter reply guys aren't going to say out loud
i guess ultimately what i'm getting at here is that i lacked the vision to imagine the average person going through school and then not being interested in the topic of abolishing schools so i interpreted the "insane-sounding thing" part wrong, sorry
imagine the average person going through school and then not being interested in the topic of abolishing schools
Tbh that's a great point that I hadn't thought of. My mind went to the STEM-worshiping types of liberals who think the answer to everything is more school funding
Very few people are familiar with leftist thinking and the average person have a hard time imagining radical change. They have been brought up assuming politics is just about making small adjustments to the status quo and presuppose that everything else will be left in place exactly as it is now when they hear a proposal.
When someone talks about abolishing schools and police most people hear "abolish schools and police and leave the rest of the capitalist system intact", which would be an insane proposal, not "abolish schools and police as part of a radical change of society".
Because the modern left sucks at communication and propaganda. The capitalists have billion dollar industries dedicated to manipulate people's minds using scientific methods while we're still a bunch of amateurs stabbing in the dark.
Except the insane-sounding thing here was meant as way more reasonable position that any normal person would have clarified like a million comments ago for the first time and it's clear to anyone who read even one paragraph of anarchist pedagogy, which promotes insane-sounding thing since the start.
they literally did tho
Why does this happen so much?
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"It only happens when you view things in bad faith, you fucking piece of shit liberal"
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Yeah generally posting just a hot take without like explanation seems bad and inflammatory
Hottest take wins
What sounds insane about "abolish the schools"? Do you think "abolish the police" sounds insane?
Most people ask what to do about rapists, current or future, and then the anarchists' suitcase full of jellybeans explodes all over the floor as they try to describe communal law officers without calling them police.
I'm not sure which is more lib: thinking that the police have done anything significant to end rape, or thinking that semantics is an epic gotcha moment.
That's not semantics, it's describing literally what structures will exist to help people in need and anarchists do the "ho ho ho, dear lib, I'll never taint myself with a material description of the system I hope to replace." Literally worthless rhetoric.
So now we're on the "shapiro-tier strawman from somebody who has never genuinely asked an anarchist about police" level of posting I see.
Just fuckin' describe the system you want to replace the current with to people. It's all I'm asking. Arrogant "dunks" do literally nothing for anyone.
Meanwhile complaining about "the anarchists" using such horrid terminology as "abolish the police" on a bear themed podcast site in the middle of the night is definitely doing everything for everyone. :shrug-outta-hecks:
The police you live under right now are not what police have to be.
yep
You can still call them police. Them name isn't the problem.
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No, but I literally want to abolish the state lol. Normal people do tend to think it sounds insane, because they have been taught to conflate abstract quantities like education and security with specific capitalist institutions. You gotta point out the distinction to them or they will be insanely confused.
yeah, i guess you kinda have to answer silent but obvious questions the twitter reply guys aren't going to say out loud
i guess ultimately what i'm getting at here is that i lacked the vision to imagine the average person going through school and then not being interested in the topic of abolishing schools so i interpreted the "insane-sounding thing" part wrong, sorry
Tbh that's a great point that I hadn't thought of. My mind went to the STEM-worshiping types of liberals who think the answer to everything is more school funding
Very few people are familiar with leftist thinking and the average person have a hard time imagining radical change. They have been brought up assuming politics is just about making small adjustments to the status quo and presuppose that everything else will be left in place exactly as it is now when they hear a proposal.
When someone talks about abolishing schools and police most people hear "abolish schools and police and leave the rest of the capitalist system intact", which would be an insane proposal, not "abolish schools and police as part of a radical change of society".
Welcome to the bird site. It doesn't get better.
Because the modern left sucks at communication and propaganda. The capitalists have billion dollar industries dedicated to manipulate people's minds using scientific methods while we're still a bunch of amateurs stabbing in the dark.
Except the insane-sounding thing here was meant as way more reasonable position that any normal person would have clarified like a million comments ago for the first time and it's clear to anyone who read even one paragraph of anarchist pedagogy, which promotes insane-sounding thing since the start.
"You have to have read anarchist pedagogy to understand my post!"
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