God you people are predictable. The second people call you out you scream “lib”.

The funny thing is for all your spleen venting John Oliver has undoubtedly done more to advance the goals of the American left than you ever have. He has introduced basic left wing talking points about race, the economy, history, societal structures and the deep systemic flaws within and made them palatable and easy to understand for the average American citizen (amazingly the average American is not a Twitter Bolshevik).

I actually credit John Oliver with helping me become more left. Because of his videos on the subject I wanted to learn more left wing things and I discovered Lindsay Ellis, then Shaun, then from Shaun Contrapoints and from her Three Arrows and then philosophy tube and Some More News, renegade cut. All because a funny comedian met me where I was at and got me interested in politics.

(I can't wait for you to explain to me how all those people are actually sucky sellout libs).

If you actually want leftist goals to succeed you have to convince the average person to adopt leftist beliefs and that means conversing with them on their level.

I seriously don’t understand what wannabe revolutionaries like you sneering and sniping at people online and demeaning them and calling them shitty libs actually accomplishes.

Do you think they’ll stick around and listen to your brilliant theory analysis after you basically told them to go fuck themselves?

Is it praxis to be on par with a dead pigs rotten asshole in terms of charisma and charm?

Or are you actually seriously delusional enough to think that there are enough of you and you are well organised enough to bypass electoralism all together and have a revolutionary war?

(🎵DOOONT STOP BELIEEEEVIN’🎵)

But whatever you think, as you are now you are not the solution to the lefts problem, rather you are an annoying parasite that alienates fence sitters, causes infighting and validates right wing narratives.

And the only reason you do it is entirely for selfish reasons. So that you get to feel intellectually and ethically superior to others.

Grow up and leave the tankie larping to the playground!

  • Importantguy123 [comrade/them]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    Shitting on recently initiated people is bad. You gotta teach them, not just tell them “I’m smart and you dumb”.

    I'm admittedly bad at this, often times they're so frustrating to talk to or just don't wanna listen so I find it easier to crack jokes instead.

    But yeah, this interaction just solidified the idea I already had that "tankie" is just a slur for any brand of leftist you don't really like

    • Waldoz53 [he/him, any]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      “tankie” is just a slur for any brand of leftist you don’t really like

      i'm an anarchist who has been called a tankie because i said calling MLs "red fash" does nothing and helps no one lol

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      "tankie” is just a slur for any brand of leftist you don’t really like

      I remember when the anarkiddies of reddit (we all know I'm talking about the terminally online dweebs and not actual anarchists lol) started to unironically use it everywhere and anywhere to get it to spread. Little did they know that under Crapitalism that anything that's a niche counter-culture trend becomes subsumed and reproduced as a commodity - robbed of any ideological value that it may or may not have had. As seen from Goths to Guevara, Capitalism turns anything cool into corporate plastic to be sold on Amazon.

    • Punk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Something about the depersonalisation of the the internet makes no one have conversations in good faith. I've had in person conversations when doing stalls and stuff and it's night and day the difference it makes with people taking each other seriously and actually listening.