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  • RNAi [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    So the "tragedy of the commons" is being greedy with shared shit? Then it's not a refutation of communism or whatever, it's an example of what individualistic mindset does to a mf and the whole community

    • dave297 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Also common land existed for hundreds of years without the tragedy of the commons ever happening, It's a thought experiment that disagrees with what happened when it was tried

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        So you are saying the basis of neolib ideology is bullshit? Huh,

        • dave297 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Crazy right, luckily despite that neoliberalism is correct as it doesn't have scary words

      • acealeam [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's real under capitalism. climate change is a pretty big tragedy of the commons

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        Also common land existed for hundreds of years without the tragedy of the commons ever happening

        I mean, I don't doubt people did periodically engage in short-sighted or destructive endeavors on common land. And if I weren't a lazy hog, I might look a few instances up. Certainly, with the advent of industrialism, the problem of public waste rapidly metastasized and created the need for public environmental regulations and bureaucracies.

        Common land doesn't solve the problem of some asshole upriver pissing downstream. At the same time, it doesn't create the problem. Negative externalities are a consequence of unchecked corrupt human behavior, not the land-ownership model.

        • dave297 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          As I recall there were strong rules about what people were allowed to do on common land under penalty of violence and social shame

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      Then it’s not a refutation of communism or whatever

      :astronaut-2: :astronaut-1: