As I said before this is an unsafe site for Indigenous people. I’m out. Don’t bother DMing me. I’m scrambling my password and locking myself out of my own account. I’ve grown to care for and trust a lot of you so it’s hard to leave but it is clear that this site isn’t for me. I understand that the world and internet at large is really shitty to vegans so I understand and support the need for a safe space to process your experiences and to practice your dunks. All the best, signing off.

Reposted here since it is invisible where I first posted it. https://hexbear.net/post/94432

    • TechBro [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Does a single indigenous person outweigh all of the people of color in this thread bringing forward their own concerns perspectives?

      • Gayan [undecided]
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        4 years ago

        Yes, because a lot of the POC, including myself, here are in favor of them, especially the most sensible arguments that culture is no excuse for murder, lol.

        • TechBro [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Yes the voice of a single indigenous person outweighs that of the masses in the community?

        • Catiline [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I really try to avoid 'mods bad' behavior, but I literally see no coherent explanation for how repeated and numerous comparisons of animal farming to human slavery or the holocaust and etc be completely tolerated despite frequent objections from POC while someone essentially stating that a certain minority being apart of a group doesn't exonerate that group from behavior that can be detrimental to minorities on the whole, using Candace Owens as an example, resulting in an instant comment removal and ban can be construed as anything but biased moderation.

            • Catiline [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I think that's a very uncharitable interpretation of what was being said considering it is literally in the context of the person in question attacking an attempt at undermining the legitimacy of minorities feeling they are being unheard, but my point is not about the validity of the comparison.

              It's the fact that slavery and holocaust comparisons that get repeatedly decried by large numbers of POC on here (and the subsequent 2983123th doubling down despite said POC objections) are either tolerated or outright given tacit approval when performed by a certain group of vegans, while another comparison gets immediately removed and the poster banned when it's directed against the argument of said group is absurd.

                • TechBro [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  Ok but what about

                  My point being someone themselves being a part of a marginalized group doesn’t exclude them from engaging in harmful rhetoric against that group. This is a nearly central component of neocolonial relationships of oppression.

        • KarlMarxsFingers [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          My point being someone themselves being a part of a marginalized group doesn't exclude them from engaging in harmful rhetoric against that group. This is a nearly central component of neocolonial relationships of oppression.

            • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              Oh fuck off, you're taking a break but still banning people and deleting their comments when they make you angry. This is a very emotional response from me. But look at how this is percieved in regards to the op and the situation.

                    • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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                      4 years ago

                      I mean, after how the last post of OP, with legitimate critisims was removed without any response from the mods. Why should I? This is a problem and just nucing threads isn't a good response. O f course I assume, when a user was banned while arguing with a mod. What the fuck else am I gonna think?

                        • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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                          4 years ago

                          It's nothing personal, but you have started hiding the moderators names and this whole thread exists, because of perceived non-good faith(or just insensitive) moderation. I am also just trained to instantly distrust moderators online. I don't know you as a person, I can only assume what you act like, doubly so with limited information. I just saw what was in front of my face and reacted accordingly and very emotional.

                          Edit: and now you've banned person for "bad-jacketing" for, from what i've seen from a quick look on their profile, are three comments and a emoji critical of the mods.