• Yawnder@lemmy.zip
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    1 year ago

    First, the US is not "the west". It's one of the countries in the west, and it's not nearly similar to other western countries.

    Second, what numbers would you believe for China? The one that doesn't mention the millions in labour camp, or the ones that don't list indebted servitude, or the one that denies any kind of abduction ever took place?

    • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The U.S. is The West. It's the hegemon. What determines if a country is a 1st world country in "the West" is if they are subservient to America or not. That's why Japan is "the West" despite being as far east as you can get relatively. America is also coincidentally the topic of the article we're discussing so I'm not sure why you're trying to draw a line there either way.

      And what do you mean by labor camps? The interment camps that western media has even conceded were temporary and have already closed since 2018? The ones where the estimated millions was just a number extrapolated from interviewing a handful of people? Did you even read the original report on this topic or are you just half remembering alarmist BBC articles about it

      • Yawnder@lemmy.zip
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        1 year ago

        Wtf you're talking about about the west being the US?
        The west is generally accepted to mean Europe and America.

        Also, good job chilling the Chinese discourse about how the Uyghur situation would not be true...

        There is nothing close to that, and the other things I mentioned but you just ignore, in the west. The closest would be Guantanamo, which is a few orders of magnitude smaller.

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          That's not true. Japan and Australia and even South Korea are also considered western nations despite being across the Earth. Specifically because they are subservient to the U.S. and oriented their societies to serve capital and U.S. geopolitical interests.

          What happened when Australia tried to seek independence from America's leash in the 70's? They got slapped back down into their place. South Korea was established as a fascist dictatorship by U.S. General Douglas MacArthur invading after Korea started to buck off America's Japanese attack dog. The fascists there held hands with America while slaughtering or jailing leftists and other dissidents all the way up to the late 80's. Despite that, they're "western". Only because they're subservient to the U.S.

          Can you find me a "Western" nation that opposes U.S. interests?

          And no, the re-education camps are not similar to Guantanamo, since you are not tortured and you are released. You do not learn trade and language in Guantanamo Bay lmao. Also it's interesting to me you didn't mention Abu Ghraib